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Reply #15 - 07/31/10 at 21:36:16
 
I need to go ride another Savage to see if this extremely subtle sluggishness in 5th gear at around 45mph is just natural for the bike.
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Reply #16 - 08/01/10 at 08:03:53
 
 "Maybe its my fault for neglecting to say that I did remove the fuel tank to do the wht spacer mod. But seems some have done it w/o removing neither the carb nor the tank. But I sure don't know how."

ralfyguy wrote on Yesterday at 10:09:30:

I'm amazed by how people managed to do the white spacer without removing the carb. On my bike it was impossible to get the screws out without removing it.


Yes ralfguy & Routy, I guess I was presuming the work was done w/ the tank off  Shocked
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Reply #17 - 08/01/10 at 14:10:04
 
Alright Lancer, the carbs comin' off   Embarrassed
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Reply #18 - 08/01/10 at 15:48:22
 
what a B!T#% that was to get off and apart, I'm thinking of dropping what is non removable from the carb into a pot of boiling water Smiley per the info in this article http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Clean-a-Motorcycle-Carburetor,-The-Right-Way...
Anyone ever tried this before?
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Reply #19 - 08/01/10 at 17:23:47
 
I would put some Sea Foam in the gas tank to clean the carb.
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Reply #20 - 08/01/10 at 17:31:05
 
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Reply #21 - 08/01/10 at 17:33:40
 
found a jet in the top side clogged (under the diaphragm), it's the smallest of the 4 brass jets, and the bristle of a toothbrush might make it through the hole Wink
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Reply #22 - 08/01/10 at 17:35:25
 
I've been driving motorcycle 40 years and never had to take a carb apart to clean.
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Reply #23 - 08/01/10 at 19:33:05
 
bill67 wrote on 08/01/10 at 17:35:25:
I've been driving motorcycle 40 years and never had to take a carb apart to clean.



wow, that is fortunate

every single 80's model savage carb I have seen has needed severe cleaning, and over half of the 90's models have needed it.
there is lots of crud out there on the road
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Reply #24 - 08/01/10 at 19:42:22
 
How doe that get in your carb if you have a stock air cleaner.
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Reply #25 - 08/01/10 at 23:37:26
 
Bill, it's bad, unfiltered or aged gas that I think is the primary problem.

Well the bike performs @ 95% now Smiley , I think the pilot jet may be too lean in these from the factory.  I've got a 40 w/ bleed holes I never used from my sold GS500 that I may bore slightly larger than the 52.5 if I can borrow the boring tool from a canic I know, as well as get the old pilot out w/o taking the carb off again.  

Anyone ever remove the bowl and bottom jets w/ the carb on the bike?
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Reply #26 - 08/02/10 at 02:48:04
 
Savager wrote on 08/01/10 at 23:37:26:
Bill, it's bad, unfiltered or aged gas that I think is the primary problem.

Well the bike performs @ 95% now Smiley , I think the pilot jet may be too lean in these from the factory.  I've got a 40 w/ bleed holes I never used from my sold GS500 that I may bore slightly larger than the 52.5 if I can borrow the boring tool from a canic I know, as well as get the old pilot out w/o taking the carb off again.  

Anyone ever remove the bowl and bottom jets w/ the carb on the bike?



It is doable.

Most of the crud found in the old carbs is from old fuel that was left in the carbs as they sat unused for years; and of course those left outside in the elements were the worst.  It goes from gummy to hard varnish, but there is usually plenty of grit to go with it so it is getting in there dispite the stock filtering system
Take a close look at the filter mount...just 1 screw on the outside of the box holds the filter in place, leaving the rest of it to flop/vibrate around when running....very easy for unfiltered air to get in.                    
Some of the bikes which are left inside garages or sheds at least were started on occasion; at least more so than those left outside.
Not sure why that is so unless those who keep them in covered storage just take better care of equipment in general.
But that is what I have found over the years when operating on the carbs

The plastic/rubber piece on the choke assembly which screws in to secure it, that is probably most damaged part of an old carb, even more than the pilot air adjusting screw.  I have to order replacements frequently for a rebuild.
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Reply #27 - 08/02/10 at 04:24:31
 
Savager wrote on 08/01/10 at 23:37:26:
Bill, it's bad, unfiltered or aged gas that I think is the primary problem.

Well the bike performs @ 95% now Smiley , I think the pilot jet may be too lean in these from the factory.  I've got a 40 w/ bleed holes I never used from my sold GS500 that I may bore slightly larger than the 52.5 if I can borrow the boring tool from a canic I know, as well as get the old pilot out w/o taking the carb off again.  

An.one ever remove the bowl and bottom jets w/ the carb on the bike?

Yes thats the only way I change jets is with the carb in place its easy to do,I never take anything apart I don't have to.
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