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Reply #30 - 07/30/10 at 08:50:01
 
What in the he11 difference does it make to you ?


Seriously? SeeingAmerica go to ( another) unreasonable, unnecessary, wrong headed war shouldnt matter to me? Im starting to see why we agree on so little.
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Reply #31 - 08/03/10 at 03:37:09
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/30/10 at 08:50:01:
What in the he11 difference does it make to you ?


Seriously? SeeingAmerica go to ( another) unreasonable, unnecessary, wrong headed war shouldnt matter to me? Im starting to see why we agree on so little.


I stand to be corrected, but in these last 5000 years of recorded history, nobody successfully invaded Persia.

The Babylonians never did, nr did the Egyptians, the Hittites, the Romans, the Mongols, the Arabs...

Alexander the Great's "drive through" lasted a mere decade and a half, and after his death the General who inherited that part of his Satrapies became a "Persian" himself (just like General Ptolemy became Pharaoh of "Greek Egypt", and Cleopatra was the last Queen)

The Turkish Empiire spanned from Costantinople (whoops, they call it Istanbul !) to Egypt and beyond, including all of Mesopotamia, but never got beyond the Euphrates into Iran.

Don't mess with Iran, guys, just leave them alone.
Ahmedinejad is a mortal, he'll die one day... Cool
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Reply #32 - 08/03/10 at 04:26:28
 
I agree don't mess with Iran or any other country or someday we will go down like Germany.
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Reply #33 - 08/03/10 at 04:53:03
 
All this blather about whatwas said, the same people who brought us the lies that lead to Nam, Iraq, & Afghanistan, want DESperately to bring lies sufficient to Manufacture Consent for War in Iran. He didnt SAY wipe Israel off the map, any more than I propose wiping America off the map. HE was saying that while the REGIMEexists in Israel that is hateful & violent, there will be no peace, JUSTAsI have said, that while the regime in DC exists that wants to screw US, we will have less & less freedom.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4527


TRust the mainstream media for your info that you use to create your opinions, & continue to be played, justas our grandparents & parents did.
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Israel is the problem with the world and they run the USA,I say wipe Israel off the map and the whole world will be a better place.








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Reply #35 - 08/03/10 at 07:50:06
 
Quote:

"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now — with somebody — and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides. It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy. Osama bin Laden may be a primitive “figurehead” — or even dead, for all we know — but whoever put those All-American jet planes loaded with All-American fuel into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon did it with chilling precision and accuracy. The second one was a dead-on bullseye. Straight into the middle of the skyscraper.

We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows? Not even the Generals in what remains of the Pentagon or the New York papers calling for WAR seem to know who did it or where to look for them.

This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed — for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now. He will declare a National Security Emergency and clamp down Hard on Everybody, no matter where they live or why. If the guilty won’t hold up their hands and confess, he and the Generals will ferret them out by force."

(And later after shock and awe.)

"We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the
whole world--a nation of bullies and bastards who
would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not
just Whores for power and oil, but killer whores with
hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us...No redeeming
social value. Just whores. Get out of our way, or
we'll kill you.

Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who
among us can be happy and proud of having this
innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine?
These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and
fooled by stupid rich kids like George Bush?

They are the same ones who wanted to have Muhammad Ali
locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for
all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the
American character. They are the racists and hate
mongers among us."                  

                                               - Hunter S. Thompson

...wow, love him or hate him his is an opinion sure to fire you up one way or another. Shocked
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Reply #36 - 08/03/10 at 08:38:22
 
Anyone who believes Ahmadinejad saidto wipe Israel off the map needs to read the link I left. Its short & easy. Its shows the lies.. It SHOWS the lies.. goread it or believe the BS thats been used forever to l;ead the people into wars,
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Reply #37 - 08/03/10 at 21:10:10
 
Hunter Thompson is (I'm sorry, was) a freaking moron and idiot. Big freaking deal, he smoked dope and hated George Bush. He didn't say anything original.
Honestly, no one with a brain believes "we would rather kill than live peacefully". what nonsense........
Grow freaking up people.......
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Reply #38 - 08/04/10 at 03:19:18
 
The People would rather be in peace, but those who make the $$$ from the wars ,, well, theydrather see us send our children off to war.

NOTE, The LIES, the LIES, Mark, read thatarticle. If therewerent some powerful people pul;ling strings, the LIESwould have been made very public. As is, once peoples mind is made up, they dont want to change. Show them the facts & they dont care, theyve already decided Ahmadenijad iscrazy & no amount of truth will change their minds. IUll bet you cant even change yours.
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Reply #39 - 08/04/10 at 08:04:17
 
You can't change what you don't have.
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Reply #40 - 08/04/10 at 14:26:41
 
Just to be clear Justin, you feel that Ahmadinejad wants to live in peace with Israel?
He is not shipping arms to Hamas? Hamas also wants to live in peace with Israel and is in no way the aggressor their conflict?
We should not support Israel, our longstanding major ally in the middle east?
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Reply #41 - 08/04/10 at 17:56:26
 
Ahhh, twisting, turning, & trying to put words in my mouth, He said what he said & He DIDNT say what he didnt say. NOT trying to take the country to fire& ash is one thing, working to ELIMINATE THE REGIME is another, now isnt it?
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Reply #42 - 08/04/10 at 19:32:46
 
Justin; are you in danger of falling into the useful idiot trap?
Do you see how someone would take your stance as defending this man? Is there any difference in this than when some fool touts Cuba's "heathcare". Has this man done anything to deserve the benefit of the doubt?
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Reply #43 - 08/04/10 at 21:13:35
 
Justin - read this post and please tell me if it is possible that the same Persian phrase can be interpreted to be "wiped off the map" vs "vanish from the pages of time".

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/weekinreview/11bronner.html?ex=1307678400&e...


If you were in Israel, would you feel threatened if Iran under Amadenijad had nuclear weapons?
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Reply #44 - 08/04/10 at 21:36:51
 
Ifya just INSIST on removing the references to the other regimes he talked about & take the CONTEXT away, then I guess a guy could interpret it that way, BUT, it would require wanting to do it that way, as opposed to understanding it in the CONTEXT in which it was said. IOW, yea, sure, IF youre just wanting to be intellectually dishonest.


Mark, I have no agenda, I nly want the truth, Im nit for against anyone, I just dont want people smeared by lies. Ifhes a bad guy, lets see it, but lets not LIE about him, okay?

Did you know that it is impossible to win, IF one cheats? Yes, the score may indicate a win in ones column, but the deffinition of the word WIN requires one to vanquish ones opponent & do so inside the rules, So, playhard, but play fair. Lets dont twist words & lie in order to justify our positions.
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