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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! 07/16/10 at 08:06:42 Quote: I've been recording my oil temps and usage over the past couple of weeks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curious, do you expect to be any worthwhile temp difference between oils, except between regular ond synthetic ? And can your temps mean anything w/o the ambient temp along w/ it?
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #1 - 07/16/10 at 08:21:32 Wall is ambient (his IR laser temp gun doesn't measure air) I think he is baselining his existing oil, not knowing what is going to show or not show as significant when he changes oils. ===================== Check me on this, unless you wick well over 70 mph, you get no significant oil consumption at all with T6?
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Reply #2 - 07/16/10 at 09:09:54

The delta values between the wall (ambient) and the filter temp (general oil temperature) and the head (maximum engine temperature) should be of some informational significance and should be able to be taken at any reasonable temperature range and can be compared between the oils and might tell us something as long as the test method remains consistent.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #3 - 07/16/10 at 09:10:51 The outside temperature does make a difference.Thats only common sense
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #4 - 07/16/10 at 09:15:03 Outside temp is reflected in "wall" (as outside temp goes up wall goes up)
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #5 - 07/16/10 at 09:34:35 what wall
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #6 - 07/16/10 at 11:56:18 If you change your test method, are you going to retake all your baseline data points?
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Reply #7 - 07/16/10 at 12:47:12

Routy wrote on 07/16/10 at 08:06:42:

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I've been recording my oil temps and usage over the past couple of weeks
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Curious,
do you expect to be any worthwhile temp difference between oils, except between regular ond synthetic ?

And can your temps mean anything w/o the ambient temp along w/ it?

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dinsdale Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 186 Ottawa, Canada Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #8 - 07/16/10 at 12:54:53 bill67 wrote on 07/16/10 at 09:34:35: what wall Quote: temperature measure with an HF ir meter, 4" away, wall of the house as ref, oil filter cover, head at the cam shaft cover.
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Reply #9 - 07/16/10 at 14:02:50

Thanks a bunch Vers for being the guinee pig for this experiment, i freakin love listening to you guys talk shop about this when i have no clue about half the stuff your saying...
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Quote: Further explaination of oil burn off last year comes from desperate need to turn up the 6/80 A/C (6 vents needing 80 to be effective). This year I have a new holy jacket to improve the A/C system to 999/30. Huh

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so to piece this together, are you looking for the Oil that results in the lowest engine temp, ie the least amount burned off? And is Rotella your benchmark since its your preferred brand of Oil?

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Reply #10 - 07/16/10 at 16:52:58

No, it's jest to make Bill feel all kinda gitchy and nervous .....

..... them super duper magic oils that have zero wear don't like them 'ol nasty facty thangs all that much.

Numbers, deltas, averages, consistent methods

Aieeeee !! THE FACTS are coming out of the woodwork !!

Hang in there Bill,

.... soon you will be all justified completely and VICTORIOUS FOREVER !!

Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz .....

Goooooooo Klotz !!!

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Reply #11 - 07/16/10 at 17:43:34

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/16/10 at 16:52:58:

No, it's jest to make Bill feel all kinda gitchy and nervous .....

..... them super duper magic oils that have zero wear don't like them 'ol nasty facty thangs all that much.

Numbers, deltas, averages, consistent methods

Aieeeee !! THE FACTS are coming out of the woodwork !!

Hang in there Bill,

.... soon you will be all justified completely and VICTORIOUS FOREVER !!

Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz ..... Klotz .....

Goooooooo Klotz !!!

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #12 - 07/16/10 at 18:51:59 Is big daddy talking,Your first post was BS
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: oil facts, NO BS! Reply #13 - 07/16/10 at 19:00:15 Big daddy Vergy removed his last post. It was silly
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Reply #14 - 07/18/10 at 11:42:20

I think the idea of measuring the oil temperature above ambient is a good one. I think I would try to measure ambient somewhere on the bike, such as the steering head behind the triple tree instead of a wall. That way I could measure the differences wherever I was instead of only at home. For that matter, an ordinary thermometer attached to the bike somewhere could be used as a reference.

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