So it remains the same, just smoother.  

How much did you pay (with shipping) for ?? how many ?? ounces of this miraculous red fluid from Klotz?


(correct answer was $10.00 for a 32 ounce bottle with free shipping)


Now, please don't take this wrong, but I have heard of people using the appropriate weight of power steering fluid or Dextron ATF to do this exact same job -- and heck, it's all RED colored too.

They said it remained the same too, just cheaper.


   







spank my hands, I am a bad bad boy

No, just a light tannish color as it pours out of the big blue jug.   Jug is right purty though.

Doesn't smell good like Klotz when it burns off in your skeeter fogger and it will make your brake rod get sorta brown if you don't give your bike a bath occasionally.

You have to drive all the way to WalMart to get it, and it can't qualify for a mortgage credit since you don't have to finance into easy payments like you do with a case of Klotz.

I have to run ZDDP boosters in my pickups' oil. Not enough zinc in modern car oils to prevent flattening the lobes on standard non-roller camshafts.

Our bikes (5) take the following as preferred engine oils: Savage 20W50 dino juice, Walmart brand or Rotella; 800 Intruder 10W40 Syntech or 15W40 Delo; project 1957 Panhead 50 weight winter, 70 weight summer, aircraft grade preferred; project 1963 CL72 Honda ND20, ND30, ND40; 1964ish Benelli 2 smokes for the 1971 Rickman standard gear oil, 85W140.

Fork oils? Intruder has whatever crap was factory fill in 1996. Honda has the stock fish oil based goo from 1963, what little it might still have in there anyway. Savage has Castrol Dexron 2 ATF and works better than the stock fork oil. Panhead takes NLGI type 2 grease, bike has a 1930s Knucklehead springer front end. Rickman has no forks, gave them to a friend for his 350 Ducati single, but had whatever was stock in Bator forks.

I'm not spending big bucks for oil that gets changed before it gets too toasted. I tend to use our used bike oils to top off my leaky 1969 Dodge truck's 318. When the bike starts missing shifts, the oil gets changed. Too clean for the oil recycler, regardless of mileage, go figure.

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 06/06/10 at 14:37:51:

$10 for 32 ounces free shipping.Which you think is best brake or auto transmission fluid   I mean which is cheaper

FishHunt wrote on 06/06/10 at 21:00:23:



That's what i use. Just Changed oil last week and what a difference it made. Got it at AutoZone. I think two quarts was like 5.85 on sale. picked up 4 quarts. gonna change every 2k or like its been said, whenever the clutch says

Bill, you is gonna confuse people teasing me about that brake fluid. Brake fluid is a mix of glycol and alcohol which is NOT good for for anything except brake systems.

Automatic Transmission Fluids (red Deltron I, II, & III) are specific weights of light petroleum oils with certain additives.   Power steering fluid (if red, there is some blue stuff out there now-a-days) is once again light petroleum oil with certain additives.  When used in forks, the additive packages are unused and mostly meaningless as there isn't anything in a fork's action to oxidize the oil, etc.  The oil's weight is everything when used in a telescopic fork's dampeners -- jest so it is red light petroleum oil instead of that light blue God knows what it is new style stuff.

People have been putting red ATF & red power steering fluid (in the correct weights of course) into their forks for 50 plus years with no known bad effects.

Putting brake fluid into your forks would be a bad thing, however.



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If you have a stock bike then plain old Valvoline 10w40 4 stroke motorcycle oil will do her jest dandy for a whole lot of miles.  

I have on my desk right now an engine that ran stock normal dyno oil for 56,000 miles and would have run even longer if it hadn't had an oiling system event that had nothing to do with the oil used.

NOT HAVING OIL PRESSURE (low idle speed) is likely what kills the majority of our heads over time.
Simply running out of oil is what kills most of the rest our bikes as a short term thing.


Not which oil is used.


Moral of the story is HAVE OIL IN YOUR BIKE !!   Keep your idle speed over a thousand rpm !!

Bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup

A normal fast idle is 1,000 to 1,100 rpm

 ....  never do a slow idle