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Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
05/21/10 at 18:37:21

Maybe it's because I bought my bike (see signature) used and was perhaps missing the proper tool in the tool kit....but I discovered that I cannot get the seat off using just the tools in the bike's tool kit.

This could be a real show-stopper, as one could blow a fuse while riding the bike and not be able to replace it (you ARE carrying a spare fuse or two on the bike, aren't you?).

Am I missing a tool? Are you able to get the seat off of your Savage using just the stock tool kit?

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #1 - 05/21/10 at 18:59:11 You can change the fuses without taking off the tank,You can pull that little rubber thing out enough to get the fuses out.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28366 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #2 - 05/21/10 at 19:02:56 I don't think you can either... I swapped the bolts for allen heads and carry the allen wrench... Factory does supply two spare fuses inside the tool box lid..
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Starlifter Serious Thumper Offline It only snows seven months of the year here. Posts: 3746 Eastern Michigan Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #3 - 05/21/10 at 19:22:50 The factory tool kit that came with the bike? Man throw that junk out and replace with good metric tools.
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prechermike Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Kalashna Kitty, from Skat Posts: 1190 Ponzer, NC Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #4 - 05/21/10 at 19:37:05 I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins. Just pull them out and push them in. No tools required!
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28754 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #5 - 05/21/10 at 20:02:03 like precher, I moded mine before I found out. but, the screws in mine had cross recessed, so I could've removed with a screwdriver. I can sell you a couple of 'locking speed pins' if you like, $10 inc shipping. just drill thru the existing brackets with a 1/4" drill. Been using them for a year or 2.
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Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Reply #6 - 05/22/10 at 18:22:05

Thanks, all, for your comments and insight.

I decided to make a simple tool to remove the seat bolts that I could fit in the OEM toolkit.

Off to Harbor Freight for some socket caps (I used the middle one for my tool):

Then I rummaged around and found a cheapo 3/8" drive 10mm socket. Here are the components of the tool I made (the article on the right is the 12mm "socket" from the OEM tool kit):

Here is what everything looks like put together (I use the screwdriver bit from the OEM toolkit as a "T-Handle" for the 12mm socket):

The additional parts (the 3/8" drive socket cap and the 10mm socket) fit easily into the OEM toolkit bag, along with the rest of the tools.

Works for me!

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earlytimz Senior Member Offline Savage model 417 (4 speed, 17mm) Posts: 382 BG, KY Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #7 - 05/22/10 at 21:08:47 Looks good... I had never seen those socket caps before, might hafta pick me up some.
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Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Reply #8 - 05/23/10 at 03:25:35

prechermike wrote on 05/21/10 at 19:37:05:

I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins. Just pull them out and push them in. No tools required! Cheesy

Since it seems like most of the instructions in the Clymer manual start with "Remove the seat as described in chapter..." I like this idea, although I might use positive locking pins.

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Aggie10 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 10	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #9 - 06/02/10 at 11:40:59 prechermike wrote on 05/21/10 at 19:37:05: I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins. Just pull them out and push them in. No tools required! Where can I get some of these? And what size?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28754 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #10 - 06/02/10 at 11:46:17 I can get the locking version of these pins they have 1/4" diameter shaft so all you have to do is drill out the threads in the bracket fixed to the seat. $10 including domestic shipping
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Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit!
Reply #11 - 06/02/10 at 11:52:32

Aggie10 wrote on 06/02/10 at 11:40:59:

prechermike wrote on 05/21/10 at 19:37:05:

I replaced my bolts with ball detent pins. Just pull them out and push them in. No tools required! Cheesy

Where can I get some of these? And what size?

Not to take away from Verslagen, but I picked mine up at a hardware type store somewhere, I really don't remember. If a Lowes type place does not have them, a tractor supply will. They are 1/4 inch and I had to drill out the tabs on the seat, where the bolts went.

Verslagens are undoubteldy nicer than mine, but they have never come out when I didn't want them to. I usually put a drop of oil on them when they are out, just to keep them working nice and smooth.

Hope that helps!

Here is the link to the original thread:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1243333783/0

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #12 - 06/02/10 at 12:15:03 Best way to do the seat and make it easy and quick to get on and off is to replace the 2 bolts and the allen bolt in back,with get good american phillip screws and do the seat with them.Ace hardware has any size you need.
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ALfromN.H. FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Dragon Slayer Posts: 1421 Rochester, New Hampshire Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #13 - 06/02/10 at 13:32:33 I put some thumb screws in mine. also no tools needed to remove seat.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Can't Remove Seat Using Just the OEM Tool Kit! Reply #14 - 06/02/10 at 13:37:07 Thats the best idea yet.
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