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Stimpy - FSO Serious Thumper Offline SuzukisSavage Int'l Division Posts: 1203 Germany - formerly SD, SoCal Gender:	"front tire only" (verslagen was right) 05/15/10 at 06:39:30 What would happen if I put a *"front only"* tire on the rear of my 250lb yamaha 125cc? _{I think a 110/90-16 Dunlop 404 would replace my aging 3.50x16 bridgestone. I already have a new 404 mounted on the front and I want them to match but cannot find a 404 rear.} Thanks, RP.
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Re: "This tire is for front use only! "
Reply #1 - 05/15/10 at 07:18:14

Stimpy - FSO wrote on 05/15/10 at 06:39:30:

What would happen if I put a "front only" tire on the rear of my 250lb (110kg) yamaha 125cc?

_{a 110/90-16 Dunlop 404 would replace my 3.50x16
aging bridgestone; already have a new 404 mounted on
the front and I want'em to match and cannot find "rear"}

Thanks, RP. Wink

http://media.reifen.com/fileadmin/files/RC-Motorradreifen/Dunlop/D404front.gif

your bike will want to go in reverse all the time,those front tires take quite a bit of training. Wink

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28787 L.A. California Gender:	Re: "This tire is for front use only! " Reply #2 - 05/15/10 at 07:44:58 If you put a rear on the front, I've heard you put them on backwards. something to do with the bias.
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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: "This tire is for front use only! " Reply #3 - 05/15/10 at 08:14:54 Its very dangerous to run a motorcycle tire backwards. The seams are glued and designed to run in only one direction. Running the tire backwards the centrifical force may cause the seams to seperate. Not a very pretty sight.
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dasch Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1137	Re: "This tire is for front use only! " Reply #4 - 05/15/10 at 08:15:09 And check the load rating. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_tyres
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: "This tire is for front use only! " Reply #5 - 05/15/10 at 08:23:54 I am a devout flaunter of warnings & a rare reader of instructions. I wouldnt tread those waters without someone telling me they did it & lived. he he,, tread, I snuck tread into a tire thread...
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Reply #6 - 05/15/10 at 09:45:13

If you are not riding at the absolute limits of the machines capability, I see no problem. You are not mounting it to rotate backwards so if you are just trying to save money by using a tire you already have, go for it.
If all it has for tread is ribbed pattern, don't try cornering at the hairy edge of the envelope.

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Reply #7 - 05/15/10 at 10:24:18

I had a motorcycle shop mount a rear tire on a high powered sportbike I owned several years back. I rode it for 2 or 3 thousand miles and the bike handled terribly. It was a radial. The tire was Avon. One day I was cleaning the bike and I saw the rotational arrow was pointing backwards. I called Avon engineers and they told me to get that tire off and throw it away immediately before I got killed. The avon engineers told me the radial belts were ruined and warned me about the seperation issue. All the motorcycle shop wanted to do was reverse it. Never went back to that shop. Do what you want to but after talking to the tire engineers I'll never intentionally run a motorcycle tires backward.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28787 L.A. California Gender:	Re: "This tire is for front use only! " Reply #8 - 05/15/10 at 10:45:42 yes never reverse radial tires. once they are riden they take a set if reversed the belts will shift again but in a bad way ruining the tire biased ply tires can be reversed though
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"front tire only" (verslagen was right)
Reply #9 - 06/08/10 at 08:07:49

So it all worked out! Cheesy

I now have a new 120/80-16 Continental in the back ($45, vietnam)
and a new 90/90-17 dunlop 404 in the front ($75usd, japan), and
since the bike weighs only 115kg and drives only 115km/h both
tires should last longer than the engine, yay!

Also turns out that this particular model of nylon continental
tire, is reversible and should be installed with opposite
rotation direction depending where it goes, I did not know that.
the dunlop on the other hand is a regular "front only" tire.

They both are broken-in now and have awesome grip both wet and
dry and pass with flying colors the stimpy "curves of the Eifel" test!

** Not my video but this was shot a few miles from my house.
See now WHY I needed a new set of wheels? Curves baby! Wink

Anyway, thanks guys, I'll keep you posted on any new mods and/or
issues and will hopefully shoot my own video soon and post it here.

Richard.

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Reply #10 - 06/08/10 at 09:51:56

Radically different Debbie-downer topic alert!

...crap (didn't notice till now) can you see the chemtrails
at the 1 minute mark? Man we're all so baked here too,
every single day the sky looks like if zeus was doing
cloud-grafitti out of boredom.

And we also have the country's highest cancer rate because of all the
army air bases around here dumping gas when landing heavy, yay!

Oh well, it was truly nice meeting you all Roll Eyes

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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: "front tire only" (verslagen was right) Reply #11 - 06/08/10 at 13:23:57 Cool video... but someone please tell me that I'm not the only idiot looking like a cat watching a ping pong game... my head is tilting left/right/left/right/left/right...
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Reply #12 - 06/08/10 at 22:25:03

babyhog wrote on 06/08/10 at 13:23:57:

Cool video... but someone please tell me that I'm not the only idiot looking like a cat watching a ping pong game... my head is tilting left/right/left/right/left/right... Grin

Nope, me too. Grin

Heck, when I'm driving to and from work in the car, I find myself leaning my head into the curves. Cheesy

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