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Max_Morley Serious Thumper Offline LT650 Luxury Touring & sidecar rig Posts: 1490 Moses Lake. WA Gender:	Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread Reply #15 - 05/10/10 at 15:57:54 If you want to know more bout oils, go to "motorwatch.com". They explain the differences between real synthetics and not so real. My be some biased as it is put together by RED LINE OIL. Max
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Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread
Reply #16 - 05/10/10 at 16:05:08

Red Line sells synthetic oils and makes a good case for why you should use them.

Red Line also builds the ZDDP booster listed up thread and uses their premium synthetic oil as the carrier base for the ZDDP.

Remember to shake that tall skinny bottle good before pouring out the shot glass fulls- that dust in the bottom of the bottle is some settled out ZDDP -- mix it up good then run your bike as soon as you change the oil out so as to get the ZDDP mixed in to the rest of the oil (keep it in solution that way).

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Reply #17 - 05/10/10 at 16:08:05

Routy wrote on 05/10/10 at 15:51:39:

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In a Savage these are the absolute minimum requirements:
Use OIL in your bike (keep it above the minimum in the sight glass at all times).
Change it frequently enough
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No truer words ever spoke......in this thread anyway.

Its hard to believe, but some of these posters really sound serious about believing that one oil really is better than the other. I like to read and just LOL, but really, I do have another life !

Then give your motorcycle a new life,use Klotz

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread Reply #18 - 05/10/10 at 16:22:04 Klotz says change oil when it get dirty,My don't seem to get dirty so I go the same as a car 7000 miles between changes.So $10 a quart isn't bad.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread Reply #19 - 05/10/10 at 18:28:08 bill67 wrote on 05/10/10 at 16:22:04: Klotz says change oil when it get dirty,My don't seem to get dirty so I go the same as a car 7000 miles between changes.So $10 a quart isn't bad. So how many years between changes is that for you bill?
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Reply #21 - 05/10/10 at 18:56:28

Dangit Youzguyz wadjya have to go an do that? i swear this forum reminds me of my kin in Wv and Ky! Guns come out when politickin starts up... LOL ... Ok rant over.. ive come to lern to listen to others who might be a taad touch more smarty than me, shaddup an try what they did... T6 is some good stuff from what ive seen... gonna try Schaeffer Racing 20w50 comming in a month or so... seens to get some good nods about it... would try royal purple as ive liked it in my car / truck but for $17 / qt??? Nooo thankye.. sides... ive switched all my vehicles over to Schaeffers 5w30 as i get Oil analysis from my trailblazer ever month... Im a believer... oh and to throw a stick on the fire...
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
go an getchya a phd in oil... lol...
an to throw a bone
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1715542
seem to like Klotz out there...

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Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread
Reply #22 - 05/10/10 at 18:58:54

I run the category IV not real synthetic, but dino derivatives until the oil change message comes on on our Colorado PU. If there are lots of highway warm weather miles it may go upwards of 8K before the message appears. On full size GM trucks you can get an "oil life left" reading that would be nice on the mid-size one.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread Reply #23 - 05/10/10 at 18:59:06 bill67 wrote on 05/10/10 at 18:42:11: 2 so, by bill, we'll know if klotz is any good in 20 years.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread Reply #24 - 05/10/10 at 19:15:23 I been using Klotz for 40 years.
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Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread
Reply #25 - 05/11/10 at 02:53:17

cornfuzed wrote on 05/10/10 at 18:56:28:

Dangit Youzguyz wadjya have to go an do that? i swear this forum reminds me of my kin in Wv and Ky! Guns come out when politickin starts up... LOL ... Ok rant over.. ive come to lern to listen to others who might be a taad touch more smarty than me, shaddup an try what they did... T6 is some good stuff from what ive seen... gonna try Schaeffer Racing 20w50 comming in a month or so... seens to get some good nods about it... would try royal purple as ive liked it in my car / truck but for $17 / qt??? Nooo thankye.. sides... ive switched all my vehicles over to Schaeffers 5w30 as i get Oil analysis from my trailblazer ever month... Im a believer... oh and to throw a stick on the fire...
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
go an getchya a phd in oil... lol...
an to throw a bone
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1715542
seem to like Klotz out there...

And ya know.. ALL I asked for was opinions from people who have used T6. Knew this would happen... Lips Sealed

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Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread
Reply #26 - 05/11/10 at 04:21:17

I tried the std. Rotella in my GSXR last oil change and will probably stick w/ it from now on (will probably get the Sym. next time). I have had no issues w/ it. The clutch feels very smooth w/ no slip and the engine runs smooth and cool. Now, keep in mind this is on an old oil cooled model that kills the fun at exactly 12,500rpm and sees that rev limiter almost every time it's out Shocked

The highway cruise RPM is in the 5,000-6000rpm range and I ride a lot of highway (it's 1hr each way to work for me) Over on the GSXR forum I frequent there are several guys w/ over 40,000mi. on their GSXR's that race every weekend running Rotella w/o issue. Trust me, there is NOTHING the Savage can throw out that Rotella can't handle.

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Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread
Reply #27 - 05/11/10 at 04:26:31

Yeah, the speed boys use Rotella, but they just abuse the crap out of it, not rack up lots of miles.

Go to other forums, especially touring forums like the Honda flat six forums for more precise and realistic long term tests on oils.

Let's face it, our Savages see maybe 10,000 miles of normal riding with the high end being 15-20,000 miles in a year's time.

Compare that to a retired dude's Goldstar that can travel 100,000 miles in a good year. He can test oil in ways we can't.

Compare that to a 18 wheeler who can easily dump 1,000,000 miles a year in normal duty.

Then consider that all three of the above groups seem to like Rotella Synthetic jest dandy .... go figure. It seems to be good stuff.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread Reply #28 - 05/11/10 at 04:59:41 Did you ever notice on here the ones using rotella oil,always have their engine torn down but its jest dandy oil.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Warning Will Robinson.. Oil Thread Reply #29 - 05/11/10 at 05:09:20 Yep, it does seem that high performance engines do get taken apart more frequently than sedate putt putt machines.
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