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Loud Click, can't shift gears
04/30/10 at 11:49:59

Hello all, Went to start the bike today and no go. It has been sitting awhile so I ordered a new batt. When I go to start it it makes a LOUD click.... by the tank and then rapid clicks under the seat. (this happened before when my 1st batt died).

But I went to shift out of neutral today and couldn't (bike obviously wasn't on) but I couldn't get the gears to move. Is this normal...cause I don't think so. Can someone tell me what's going on please.

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Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears
Reply #1 - 04/30/10 at 11:56:51

1st charge the battery, then check voltage while starting, even new batteries go bad.

2nd, never heard of this one. but similar to shifting issues normal to bike and newb's. apply pressure to shift, don't stomp on it, place your foot on it and roll forward or backward, should click in, no clutch needed.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28642 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #2 - 04/30/10 at 11:57:47 Dead battery... It's normal to be hard to shift, when not running... ..
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conlime YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 24 Chicago Gender:	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #3 - 04/30/10 at 12:00:52 HA... I did charge it but still nothin. I did let it sit all winter without a tender. So it's my fault. I'll try that rolling trick next. I appreciate the quick response guys. Adam
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dasch Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1137	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #4 - 04/30/10 at 12:11:32 Even easier - Jump it! Then start it. Shifting is sometimes impossible without motor running.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #5 - 04/30/10 at 14:53:12 Sit on the bike, pull the clutch in, rock it back & forth & work the shifter.Heck, try it w/o even touching the clutch, oughta work easy as pie.
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Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears
Reply #6 - 05/01/10 at 04:58:49

I just went out to mine....(with kickstand down, using the clutch) wouldn't shift while in the "off" position, even if I turn the key "on" (kickstand down) wouldn't shift, cranked her up....shifts no problem.... some sort of safety mechinism maybe ?? BTW, she sat for 6 months with no starting before I got her, jumped her, let her run for @ an hour, then let her run every day for awhile, she's fine (no new battery)! Cool

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miker Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 53 Texas, USA Gender:	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #7 - 05/01/10 at 05:53:09 no safety, purely mechanical, just need to roll it a bit to shift while off.
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Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears
Reply #8 - 05/01/10 at 08:42:25

First loud click you hear under tank is the decompression solenoid I think. The lesser clicking is probably starter solenoid trying to make contact. Have you checked your batter cables? I'm looking for corrosion or loose connecting hardware. Worse yet would be a damaged cable either cut, nicked or bad end.

Shifting has been covered sufficiently.

Good luck mate.

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Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears ***Update***
Reply #9 - 05/06/10 at 17:32:42

UPDATE! I got a new battery and installed it. Thank you for the shifting advice. Worked great. After I installed the new battery I went to start her up and got the same result. One loud click nder the tank and then a series of lighter clicks under the seat.

- checked fuses all ok
- checked wires all ok
- no mods
- tried to push start and that wouldn't work either
- fresh spark plug

WHAT IS HAPPENING? WHY WON'T SHE CRANK. Do I have to take it to a mechanic?

Thank you.
Adam

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #10 - 05/06/10 at 17:46:00 might be hydrolock or bearings froze or just grab another straw outta the air... take the plug out, and squirt some oil into the cylinder then try and crank w/o plug you changed the oil yet? did you change the filter? maybe you got in backwards? the little hole goes on the spud toward the crank.
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Reply #11 - 05/06/10 at 17:58:11

Thanks for the fast post!

Never heard of hydrolock before. So would I just take some of my oil and drip some in the spark plug hole? Regular oil?

I did change the oil this spring and the oil filter and did put the filter in correctly.

I should add that when I tried to push start it I did roll over twice and puff some air out of the exhaust. Don't know if that'll help with the diagnosis at all. Appreciate all the help I can get!

***oh I forgot to mention that sometimes when I depress the start button NOTHING happens...no clicks nothing. When that happens I have to rock it in gear a couple of times just to get the starter to click.***

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Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears
Reply #12 - 05/06/10 at 18:34:39

well if she puffed then it aint hydrolock
that's when the cylinder get full of fluid and fluid don't compress so it locks the piston in place

click...clickyclick still sounds like a bad battery
you gotta voltmeter? check the voltage when you try to start
should be nearly 12 to start with and shouldn't drop below 10? (OK guys help me out here) with the button pushed.

most of my straw snatching is to get you to talk about your bike, what you tried and all. still can't read minds.

oh button push nothin' happens... clean contacts under button.
might be it too. that could drop the voltage.

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conlime YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 24 Chicago Gender:	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #13 - 05/06/10 at 18:43:33 Again, thanks for the help. This being my first bike an all I want to fix everything myself! So I should take apart the starter button and clean the connections there? Man this is frustrating.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Loud Click, can't shift gears Reply #14 - 05/06/10 at 18:58:13 that's where i would start. little clues, just little ones.
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