SuzukiSavage.com - baffle installation

Jimmer Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 497 NewportPa. Gender:	baffle installation 03/21/10 at 17:52:30 Can someone explain to me where to install a baffle in a straight pipe. I purchased a chrome pipe that fits the header exactly. It is really to loud for me and I want to install a baffle, but I'm not sure where to locate the baffle in the pipe. Thanks for your help and suggestions in advance. Jimmer
Back to top	IP Logged

Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28662 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #1 - 03/21/10 at 22:52:34 Don't know why,.. but they always seem to go near the end... For cosmetic reasons,... maybe an inch in from the end... It might have to do with not wanting to recreate a pulse wave at the end of the pipe... Just my thoughts,... and also to give you a bump, since there have been no other responses yet...
Back to top	Ludicrous Speed !... ... ... IP Logged

Jimmer Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 497 NewportPa. Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #2 - 03/22/10 at 07:13:51 Thanks Serowbot that's what I thought. Anyone else have a ideas, spit them out.
Back to top	IP Logged

Moofed Full Member Alliance Member Offline ...and the engine just gleams... Posts: 148 Bloomington, Indiana Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #3 - 03/22/10 at 07:45:46 ~~I think Diamond Jim put his towards the front of the pipe. I don't recall the reasoning behind it though.~~ Lancer talks about it below...
Back to top	« Last Edit: 03/22/10 at 09:18:13 by Moofed » IP Logged

prechermike Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Kalashna Kitty, from Skat Posts: 1190 Ponzer, NC Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #4 - 03/22/10 at 07:55:15 I am BAFFELED by the whole thing! Sorry, couldn't resist!
Back to top	2006, HD pipe, Tkat fork brace, elkhide handgrips, gel seat w/riser, silverblue, Ed L's forward controls, Wristwatch, biblethumper650@gmail.com IP Logged

Jimmer Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 497 NewportPa. Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #5 - 03/22/10 at 08:20:54 preachermike Nice to see there is humor in everyday things, Quite catching. Take care and ride safe.
Back to top	IP Logged

Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #6 - 03/22/10 at 08:33:40 As far as performance, a straight pipe works really well at only one engine speed. Adding a baffle will probably change that speed. The only thing a straight pipe has going for it, on the street, is its look. For street use a straight pipe is perhaps your worst choice.
Back to top	Eschew obfuscation. IP Logged

bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #7 - 03/22/10 at 08:42:23 A tuned muffler will give you a wide power band.
Back to top	william h krumpen IP Logged

Charon

Serious Thumper

Offline

Posts: 1811
Harvard, NE
Gender: male

Re: baffle installation
Reply #8 - 03/22/10 at 08:46:54

"Tuned muffler" and "wide power band" are mutually exclusive. "Tuned muffler" implies that it is tuned for one specific speed. "Wide power band" implies that it is essentially untuned, or in electronic terms broadband and will work reasonably well over a wide range of speeds. "Tuned" is what you want for racing; "Wide power band" is what you want for the street.

Sorry, Bill.

Back to top

Eschew obfuscation.

IP Logged

bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #9 - 03/22/10 at 08:50:16 A tuned muffler can be tuned for a wide power band.
Back to top	william h krumpen IP Logged

LANCER

Serious Thumper
Alliance Member

Offline

Savage Beast
Performance Parts

Posts: 10667
Oklahoma
Gender: male

Re: baffle installation
Reply #10 - 03/22/10 at 09:04:34

Moofed wrote on 03/22/10 at 07:45:46:

I think Diamond Jim put his towards the front of the pipe. I don't recall the reasoning behind it though.

My son and I just picked up Diamond Jim's (Russ) bike this weekend.
This was my sons purchase. 2006 S40 with just 2300+ miles. Looks and runs better than a brand new stock bike. Dyno test confirmed 33 hp with 36 lb torque.
It is a strickingly beautiful bike and for my taste is THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SAVAGE or S40 I have ever seen. The lines of the bike flow like a piece of art and is exceptional in its look of simplicity. Every mod done is with virtual perfection; totally professional quality. It does have a straight pipe but it is a bit longer than most which adds volume to the pipe (ie muffler volume) and it also has a baffle in the end of the pipe. The baffle design chosen was done so after numerous tests for the right sound and performance. I do not know the exact form of the baffle but I am sure he would be happy to bring it up for folks to see. The sound of the exhaust is just right. It is low, mellow and strong without any harshness at all. It does not backfire, hesitate or surge. Jetting/tuning are spot on.
This was the first time Jim and I met face to face but we have known each other here for a couple years at least I believe.
You can not meet a nicer guy. He was most gracious and generous with assorted parts not on the bike or even from a LS650...just extra stuff.
We had a great visit with him while loading the bike, maybe 2-3 hours is all we had, but it was time well spent.
Thank you Russ.

My son is in his garage today with Mcguires polish/wax & chrome cleaner to clean it up from the torrential rain we went through on the way home last night.

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2

Serious Thumper

Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.

Re: baffle installation
Reply #11 - 03/22/10 at 09:05:58

Wouldnt it be cool to be able to put a baffle in that could be moved in & out? Or maybe 3 or 4 baffles, each on its own axle, able to rotate each to be across the diameter or in line w/ the pipe or any setting in between.. Ohhhh I can see it now!
The Supertrapp is "tunable" in that the number of baffles can be changed, making it more or less resistive to air flow, making it tunable/easily matched to jetting.

Back to top

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.

IP Logged

RidgeRunner13

Serious Thumper

Offline

haulin' the
groceries!

Posts: 649
Mustang Island, Texas
Gender: male

Re: baffle installation
Reply #12 - 03/22/10 at 10:40:05

When I was 14 & had my Honda 90, I swiped one of the vauum cleaner extentions. Back then they were chrome steel pipes & the perfect size for a straight pipe for my bike. Since I had to be able to ride it in a resticted community, I installed a moveable baffle called a "Snuff or Not". It looked like a lolli-pop, a large washer with a flat stem. You installed it by drilling one hole for the stem, then you put on a flat square 'washer' with a slot for the stem & the corners bent down to index it to the pipe. Then a spring & knob held by a captive pin. With a simple twist you went from baffled to straight. Simple & worked great. No reason you couldn't put more than one in a pipe if you needed to. Cool

If I ran a straight pipe I would use this now. Grin

Back to top

Wind me up & watch me run, I ain't never had too much fun!

IP Logged

Jimmer Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 497 NewportPa. Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #13 - 03/22/10 at 11:04:52 Lancer Are you saying the baffle is in the discharge end of the pipe not on the header end.
Back to top	IP Logged

Moofed Full Member Alliance Member Offline ...and the engine just gleams... Posts: 148 Bloomington, Indiana Gender:	Re: baffle installation Reply #14 - 03/22/10 at 12:02:29 This is probably what Lancer is talking about. I was thinking of this other exhaust. Apparently it makes for nice sound.
Back to top	IP Logged