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Reply #105 - 03/28/10 at 10:23:06

verslagen1 wrote on 03/28/10 at 10:02:03:

kerosene wrote on 03/22/10 at 23:25:24:

Ok, so I put the carb on today, everything looked good... connected battery, died... weird... 'jumped' it off my car directly, *ignition*.... puf puf purrrff pufff... thats a good sign... again... .purrrr puff puf pum pum pum... running... dies... FU#K... again... pur y....e..... fu....

Checked the oil at this point... leaned towards middle and checked, above center of eyepeice, poured some out and notice a HUGE wet spot (nope, didn't piss myself) apperantly gas poured into the air box... but how...

I was thinking about the dilema, and I wonder if it was related to the brass tube somehow

Ok, so you gotta new2u carb, one that's been sitting in a unknown condition for who knows how long. We're back to square one.
add seafoam, let sit. try again.
since you had the carb in your hands... did you clean it before?
what jets are in it?
how is the idle mixture screw set?
I think the petcock is a mute issue, you got it set to prime, pull the hose and plug the port. remember to return it to "on" when you quit messin' with it.
BTW, there's still gas in the tank? Cause I'd hate to tell to put the bike back in the box and return it to the store. Smiley

Carb is clean, was cleaned by the seller before he sent it to me, and I cleaned it after
Idle screw is in all the way
The screw thats opposite of choke is set to 2 turns out
gas, yes there is gas
Seafoamed already once, added seafoam yesterday before I left, and I just added some while adding new petrol
tested petcock, had hose plugged and bought little caps for the carb end, sucked on hose got no gas in my mouth... bike also did not start up/run any better.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New Reply #106 - 03/28/10 at 10:47:34 Thanks for the update, lotta sh!t going down. Do you get a thumpa thumpa before she quits or just a gasp? Rackin' my brain for all the fuel delivery checks... put a cup under the carb and open the drain valve, petcock to prime, should flow good.
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Reply #107 - 03/28/10 at 10:57:19

verslagen1 wrote on 03/28/10 at 10:47:34:

Thanks for the update, lotta sh!t going down.

Do you get a thumpa thumpa before she quits or just a gasp?

Rackin' my brain for all the fuel delivery checks...
put a cup under the carb and open the drain valve, petcock to prime, should flow good.

doesnt even sound like its about to fire up, just turning over.

flowing good checked that too, just to verify that gas is going.

took out the spark plug, cleaned it off (brand new plug) just in case.

took the vac line off entirely, and capped it at both ends (in case hose is cracked)

anything else?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New Reply #109 - 03/28/10 at 11:22:52 was the air filter drenched? some say that causes the fibers to glue together run w/o for testing
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kerosene Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 175	Re: New Reply #110 - 03/28/10 at 17:15:07 vers per our discussion, i did everything except 2 things (check actual amount of spark and compression) I dont think its either... my airbox got flooded with gas AGAIN! not sure why though... which is pissing me off even more.
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Reply #111 - 03/28/10 at 17:20:15

airbox flooding (be glad it's the airbox and not the crankcase)

check the float valve
if you drain has a nipple,
attach a clear tube and run it up along side the carb.
turn the petcock to prime and the level should come up to the gasket on the bowl and stop.
If it don't stop, check the float setting, check the valve.
Or rap on the side of the carb with a plastic handle screwdriver.

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kerosene Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 175	Re: New Reply #112 - 03/28/10 at 17:30:40 not sure what you mean about with the clear tube... yes there is gas in the carb, floats are good, if I unscrew the screw at the bottom of floater gas comes out...
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kerosene Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 175	Re: New Reply #114 - 03/28/10 at 18:22:14 yea, but connect where?
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kerosene Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 175	Re: New Reply #115 - 03/28/10 at 18:41:54 fyi, bike is at my house, in my garage I can now work on it freely and daily
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Reply #116 - 03/28/10 at 19:10:55

Only two ways gas can get from the tank to the air filter... one is down that vacuum line,... two is past the float system...
... unless there's a monkey hiding in there, it's one of those two...

As a little side note,... with that much gas moving around during all that cranking, you may have washed the cylinder walls clean of oil... that will cause loss of compression and no start...
...pull the spark plug and squirt a teaspoon or so of oil in there...

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Reply #117 - 03/28/10 at 19:18:38

Serowbot wrote on 03/28/10 at 19:10:55:

Only two ways gas can get from the tank to the air filter... one is down that vacuum line,... two is past the float system...
... unless there's a monkey hiding in there, it's one of those two...

As a little side note,... with that much gas moving around during all that cranking, you may have washed the cylinder walls clean of oil... that will cause loss of compression and no start...
...pull the spark plug and squirt a teaspoon or so of oil in there...

1. gas is going through the PIPE that is connected from carb to the airbox (black tube with O clamps) I'm 100% sure of that because the whole pipe is wet...

2. Ok, I pulled everything off the bike (tank included) I will buy a new O ring for the speedo tomorrow so it stops leaking, also I am going to check the spark tomorrow per vers. I will drain old oil from engine and add new oil (was planning to do so) same goes for gas (just to be sure it isn't the seafoam causing the issue) I will add a teaspoon of oil into the hole per your recommendation

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kerosene Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 175	Re: New Reply #118 - 03/28/10 at 19:46:26 an fyi/update I took apart the carb again, verified that the floater floats and the plunger plunges and moves up and down... removed the main jet and cleaned it out, I cant remove pilot the screw part is bad and I cant unscrew Alan
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Reply #119 - 03/28/10 at 20:19:22

just to keep the gas flowing in the right direction, keep the front elevated a little. as long as you find it in the airbox it's ok.

fuel, fire and air is all you need.

what you might try is starter fluid or wd40. wd's propellant is propane.
leave the gas off, a squirt of starter in there, then start it.
a few thumpa's would confirm fire.

we know you got gas, just too much of it.

another thing i might consider, don't use the starter button.
the m/c battery needs to be strong to light her up.
use the car battery to jump the starter only. You'll need a friend if you do that.

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