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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	What? Why bother? I dunno .... 03/14/10 at 09:39:51 Serenity gave me a dead engine to work out the head bearing fix upon. This has been accomplished, along with a couple of other small investigations and fixes (solutions posted in Tech Section). What other major engine illness do we have that needs addressing? What is next for Serenity's engine?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #1 - 03/14/10 at 10:13:32 It seems the worst thing that can happen to our bikes is the loss of oil flow. W/o adding a $60 gage kit, what can be done to verify oil flow thru the vital parts of the engine?
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Re: What is next for Serenity's engine?
Reply #2 - 03/14/10 at 11:43:44

How about a really tiny pressure gage port (say 1/8" tread) drilled & tapped directly into the oil gallery up at the head cover?

Who has a source for an inexpensive little pressure gage? This one might could possibly be of some use
(at $2.99 it is worth the experiment $$)

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45201

We could get cute and run a flexible line over to the handle bar as well.

By tapping into the cover oil gallery you can get a read for any blockages, etc after a rebuild is completed. You will be measuring what ACTUALLY gets up to the head bearings themselves in real time.

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And this one would just be an everything solution for $19.99

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65210

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #3 - 03/14/10 at 12:08:22 Not bad, you could mount in there a tire valve stem and take readings at will. Or remove the valve and connect the panel gage. http://www.acschradervalves.com/products.html
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #4 - 03/14/10 at 12:32:54 Id rather put a Murphy switch/gauge in a spot like that. I might not be looking at the moment itdropped. Hekkuva an idea, to monitor the cam oil pressure.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #5 - 03/14/10 at 13:05:11 Justin has a point -- a schrader can trap pressure until relieved somehow. I'd unscrew the schrader and use the freed up threads to make up the connection.
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Re: What is next for Serenity's engine?
Reply #6 - 03/14/10 at 13:16:38

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 03/14/10 at 13:05:11:

Justin has a point -- a schrader can trap pressure until relieved somehow.

I don't think JOG was talking about trapped pressure OF.
But to address that point, trapped pressure? Where?
Either remove the schrader valve for a permanently connected gage or remove the gage. That was a tire gage you listed. The purpose of the valve is to allow temporary connection and to hold oil in when not hooked up.

Found the Murphy switch/gage site... and as murphy's law would have it, all the links were broken. couldn't find sh!t. send a link please.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #7 - 03/14/10 at 13:25:54 If I had gages I would want a red light to come on and say check engine,Low tire pressure,low fuel.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #8 - 03/14/10 at 13:28:23 You are thinking Scrader in the head gallery attachment, I was thinking Scrader in the hand gage assembly, sorry. Would the rubber in a normal Scrader valve do well in oil at head temps? ------ Bill, what do they call those sorts of lights again?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #9 - 03/14/10 at 13:35:56 Oldfeller lights
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #10 - 03/14/10 at 13:36:36 Yep, must be
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #11 - 03/14/10 at 13:52:54 bill67 wrote on 03/14/10 at 13:25:54: If I had gages I would want a red light to come on and say check engine,Low tire pressure,low fuel. I got those flashy, sparkly kinda lights that say "check brain"
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Re: What is next for Serenity's engine?
Reply #12 - 03/14/10 at 14:01:36

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 03/14/10 at 13:28:23:

Would the rubber in a normal Scrader valve do well in oil at head temps?

R-12 & R-134a Standard Flow Schrader Valve Core W/ Neoprene Seal - Color Coded Green on Top / Black Barrel Seal (These Valve Cores are produced by different manufacturers: thus the color coding for identification. All will work with R-12 & R-134A, Polyester, Mineral & Pag Lubricants.)

Key word here, neoprene seal. So even if a standard seal don't hold up, these will. And worse case... put a steel cap on it to back it up. I would anyway. Last thing you'd want to do is spray hot oil all along the side of some cager! Wink

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: What is next for Serenity's engine? Reply #13 - 03/14/10 at 14:21:45 verslagen1 wrote on 03/14/10 at 13:52:54: bill67 wrote on 03/14/10 at 13:25:54: If I had gages I would want a red light to come on and say check engine,Low tire pressure,low fuel. you I got those flashy, sparkly kinda lights that say "check brain" Did you
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Truckinduc Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 255	Re: What? Why bother? I dunno .... Reply #14 - 03/14/10 at 19:52:28 is the cam pressurized with oil inside? Ive yet to tear into the head. IF IT IS ill make an aluminum cam plug, where it is sandwiched in the cam cover and head. Then thread it and run a gauge off of it. Just throwing ideas out there, maybe it wont work. If it works I could make more.
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