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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #60 - 12/13/09 at 18:36:46

Charon wrote on 12/12/09 at 15:18:56:

Tell us, Bill, how a couple of ounces of thinner oil (Seafoam) in two quarts of presumably new motor oil is going to make a difference. Take into account that the original poster says the cylinder, piston, and rings are already clean. How can you clean the already clean? How is thinning the oil going to improve the seal?

Actually, slightly thinner oil will make it seat faster.

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Reply #61 - 12/27/09 at 04:26:28

I had a little time to play with the bike; drained the oil to see how it looked...... really dark and funky looking, which would be expected considering the oil blowing through the combustion chamber. However, there was also some metal in the oil as can be seen in this photo of the filter mount from the right side of the case.

Not good news ..........
time for the top end to come off. Looks like I will have the opportunity to intall the 97mm piston into a newly bored cylinder.
It is Boretech time.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Smoking Issue Reply #62 - 12/27/09 at 09:34:33 You run a magnet thru that Lancer? How much is aluminum? That aint a pretty sight, sir. Sure hate to see that.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Smoking Issue Reply #63 - 12/27/09 at 13:18:31 And people wonder why we puts magnets on our oil filters .... She don't lookie good, them's little shavings ain't they?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Smoking Issue Reply #64 - 12/27/09 at 13:54:10 We don't put magnets on our oil filter,We don't use car tires on motorcycles,We don't use diesel oil in our motorcycles,And for some strange reason we never have a problem,Doing it the old fashion way.
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Online Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5835 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Smoking Issue Reply #65 - 12/27/09 at 16:41:05 So we had special bike tires befor we had bikes ?
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Ed L. Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline "We All go a Little Crazy Sometimes" Norman Bates Posts: 2808 Sunny Florida Gender:	Re: Smoking Issue Reply #66 - 12/27/09 at 18:55:55 Not a good sight at all, those flakes look like aluminium so lets hope your bore is still good. It's time for some exploratory surgery.
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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #67 - 12/27/09 at 21:23:13

bill67 wrote on 12/27/09 at 13:54:10:

We don't put magnets on our oil filter,We don't use car tires on motorcycles,We don't use diesel oil in our motorcycles,And for some strange reason we never have a problem,Doing it the old fashion way.

& magnets on oil filters cant hurt anything, can only help. Car tires should really have a big effect on the life of an engine & Rotella has recently been relabeled to pacify the m/c crowd. Not reformulated, it was as it is, a good oil that will pass the tests the m/c manufacturers call for.
Now, what has caused the problem? The autopsy will tell it.

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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #68 - 12/27/09 at 23:20:44

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/27/09 at 21:23:13:

bill67 wrote on 12/27/09 at 13:54:10:

We don't put magnets on our oil filter,We don't use car tires on motorcycles,We don't use diesel oil in our motorcycles,And for some strange reason we never have a problem,Doing it the old fashion way.

& magnets on oil filters cant hurt anything, can only help. Car tires should really have a big effect on the life of an engine & Rotella has recently been relabeled to pacify the m/c crowd. Not reformulated, it was as it is, a good oil that will pass the tests the m/c manufacturers call for.
Now, what has caused the problem? The autopsy will tell it.

If god had wanted us to put magnets in oil filters he would have given us the inteligence to do so... well at least some of us. Grin

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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #69 - 12/28/09 at 03:06:03

Bill is just poking at us to get him some sort of reaction -- jest let him be or else he'll start telling Lancer he shoulda used Klotz sewing machine oil to keep that whatever from happening.

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I'm more concerned that when Lancer gets Rex torn down it will be bore & piston and mebbe some sort of oiling system pressure related issue that are gonna be a "big down" that will keep Rex in his box for a while.

We are counting down at T-7 months to the third annual Dragon time .... with poor old Rex slowly heading towards his boxes instead of spending them nice springtime days honing his tires getting ready to head towards the mountains.

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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #70 - 12/28/09 at 03:16:21

verslagen1 wrote on 12/27/09 at 23:20:44:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/27/09 at 21:23:13:

bill67 wrote on 12/27/09 at 13:54:10:

We don't put magnets on our oil filter,We don't use car tires on motorcycles,We don't use diesel oil in our motorcycles,And for some strange reason we never have a problem,Doing it the old fashion way.

& magnets on oil filters cant hurt anything, can only help. Car tires should really have a big effect on the life of an engine & Rotella has recently been relabeled to pacify the m/c crowd. Not reformulated, it was as it is, a good oil that will pass the tests the m/c manufacturers call for.
Now, what has caused the problem? The autopsy will tell it.

If god had wanted us to put magnets in oil filters he would have given us the intelligence to do so... well at least some of us. Grin

How is a few guys have been playing around a few years only on Savage.com are more intelligent than the auto and motorcycles engineers with over 100 years of experience.It must be a conspiracy so we have to buy new motorcycles and cars. Roll Eyes

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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #71 - 12/28/09 at 07:50:54

bill67 wrote on 12/28/09 at 03:16:21:

How is a few guys have been playing around a few years only on Savage.com are more intelligent than the auto and motorcycles engineers with over 100 years of experience.It must be a conspiracy so we have to buy new motorcycles and cars. Roll Eyes

Now there's a slogen for you... 'life begins on a savage'

And auto engineers are older than dirt. Tongue

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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #72 - 12/28/09 at 13:44:05

Verslagen, he also is arguing with the engineers telling them they ain't as smart as ..... engineers. This always tickles me for some reason.

Almost as good as him telling me all about tires and what was intended by Dunlop/Goodyear and the other tire inventors to go on where.

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Did you ever get any communications back from Sluggo or Mysterious about your offer? Big quiet as far as I can see, I'd have to take it as a not home or a not interested, whichever should logically apply.

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Both you and Lancer have each declared for a bigger piston with a raised dome top -- look'n forward to hearing about the installs and the results.

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Re: Smoking Issue
Reply #73 - 12/28/09 at 13:59:07

[quote author=647B7D7A6760516151697B773C0E0 link=1260147237/60#67 date=1261977793]bill67 wrote on 12/27/09 at 13:54:10:

We don't put magnets on our oil filter,We don't use car tires on motorcycles,We don't use diesel oil in our motorcycles,And for some strange reason we never have a problem,Doing it the old fashion way.[/get

& magnets on oil filters cant hurt anything, can only help. Car tires should really have a big effect on the life of an engine & Rotella has recently been relabeled to pacify the m/c crowd. Not reformulated, it was as it is, a good oil that will pass the tests the m/c manufacturers call for.
Now, what has caused the problem? The autopsy will tell it.

Rotella passed the test with a D,Why not pay a little more and use and oil that passes with a A+ grade.

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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: Smoking Issue Reply #74 - 12/29/09 at 07:32:45 Ed L. wrote on 12/27/09 at 18:55:55: Not a good sight at all, those flakes look like aluminium so lets hope your bore is still good. It's time for some exploratory surgery. Yea, sort of loks like aluminun. I hope the cam journal is ok.....
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