SuzukiSavage.com - Jardine or Super Trapp?

gerald.hughes Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline FSO Posts: 1100 Tucson, Az Gender:	Jardine or Super Trapp? 11/23/09 at 16:19:15 I am seriously considering the purchase of an aftermarket muffler to replace the Dyna unit that I currently have on my bike. After reading quite a few posts on this site, I have come to the conclusion that I either want a Jardine, or a Super Trapp. I would appreciate any input that I can get about the relative pros and cons for each. Thank you.
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srinath Serious Thumper Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5349	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #1 - 11/23/09 at 16:33:51 I'll sell ya jardine for a benjamin bill. I like the jardine ... dunno about supertrapp. Jardine is so burbly and classy. Loud but classy, hard to even explain it. Cool. Srinath.
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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #2 - 11/23/09 at 16:45:42 Sound files in the Tech section: Are they accurate?? http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1151331237
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #3 - 11/23/09 at 16:47:53 Jardine is loud. Supertrapp can be loud depending how many disks you have. It's also tunable for whatever jet you have installed. great sound w/o being wake the dead loud.
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photojoe FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline I did warn you to brace yourself Posts: 1379 New Jersey Gender:	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #4 - 11/23/09 at 17:02:38 I've been running a Trapp, no disks and no end cap since I bought the bike in March, 2008. Tried 6 disks w/open end cap and removed them after a few rides. I like it the way it is w/o disks, and wouldn't change a thing.
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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #5 - 11/23/09 at 17:06:07 I like my Supertrapp. Its easier to tune the pipe to the carburator than to tune the carburator to the pipe. I'm just running 5 disc. Like that it produces a low rumble thats not annoying. It just sounds good. The big downside is the price.
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seviersavage Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 364 Smoky Mountains Tennessee Gender:	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #6 - 11/23/09 at 18:39:38 Supertrapp, I've got 14 discs and sounds deep but not too loud, plus It's tunable. No question spring for a super trapp. Hey, I've got a possibility, since my wife is taking over my savage, and she likes quiet, maybe a trade with some for the diff? Just a thought, Sevier
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gerald.hughes Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline FSO Posts: 1100 Tucson, Az Gender:	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #7 - 11/23/09 at 18:50:15 Sevier. Thanks for the offer. I will keep it in mind. Right now I am still in the deciding stage.
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nicka YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 44 Tucson Gender:	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #8 - 11/24/09 at 15:02:43 Gerry You only had the Dyna on for a few weeks, what didn't you like about it? Nick
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Re: Jardine or Super Trapp?
Reply #9 - 11/24/09 at 15:35:58

Its not that I dislike it. Rather it is that I want to make some changes to the bike, and one of them would involve a less restrictive muffler. Right now, I have almost convinced myself that it should be the Super Trapp, even though it is the most expensive option. I really like the tunability, so that if I change what I want to do, I will be able to change the muffler, rather than replace it.

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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #10 - 11/26/09 at 16:22:45 Jardine slash cut checking in. It is loud, really loud. I also have not been able to dial the carb in to stop backfiring. Only lessen. I haven't done any mods to the carb yet tho.
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srinath Serious Thumper Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5349	Re: Jardine or Super Trapp? Reply #11 - 11/26/09 at 17:51:29 Mine actually is fine with out much at all done in the carb ... I have teh air screw too rich now ... may have to turn it in 1/4-1/2 ... And backfiring on shut throttle isn't a sign of any problems, back firing on steady throttle or when opening the throttle = bad. Cool. Srinath.
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Re: Jardine or Super Trapp?
Reply #12 - 11/27/09 at 23:35:01

The Supertrapp is expensive, $400! But Ive heard Jardines, harley mufflers and Gregg D,s Raask and nothing comes close to the sound of the supertrapp! Nice deep rumble, and what a cool sound when backing off the throttle.
The difference in performance from the stock muffler and a supertrapp will shock you! Its like adding 10 more horsepower

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Re: Jardine or Super Trapp?
Reply #13 - 11/29/09 at 04:40:23

One of each here - the '95 engine is stock except for a carb tune and has had a Jardine on it for over 10 years and >20k miles - sounds real fine and runs great.

I installed a new in the box Jardine on the '02 that over time started to rattle inside. The baffle is held in with a rivet so it takes a little extra effort to find out what is going on - that and the new jardine just flat never sounded like the old one - it was far louder and a bit harsh compared to the old one on the '95. No idea if this common on the Jardines now or not - perhaps they're not built near as well as they once were - based on the ones I have I'd say that is the case

I got a deal from somebody around here for a nearly new 'trapp that was taken off when they traded the bike in as you get nothing additional for any of the performance mods you do on trade in.

When I installed the cam and did a little head port on the '02 I also put on the 'trapp.

The playing around is here:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1206919295

If your going to do more than a carb tune I'd sure be on the look out for clean 'trapp - believe I gave about $150

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