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No Spark
10/06/09 at 15:09:43

Hey Everyone. Im new here and a new owner of a 1995 Savage 650 with 6.5k miles on it. It is in great condition other than the fact it wont start now. I rode it one day, went to start it the next and no luck. The engine turns over what the start button is pressed. Here is a list of everything I have done this far:
-Kill switch is in the proper position.
-Clutch lever was pulled in.
-Key was on.
-Pulled the spark plug. Grounded it to the frame, no spark.
-Checked compression, is great.
-Tested the plug in a different bike, sparks fine and strong.
-Pulled the coil off and checked the voltage at the hot lead. It was 11.4v when the bike was on.
-Checked resistance across the coil. Came out to 4 ohms (seems a bit high to me).

I don't have any way to check the CDI but unless something is wrong with the ground portion of the CDI it doesn't seem like the CDi is the issue. I am thinking the coil went out as the bike was running really rich and a weak coil would cause that wouldn't it?

Anyways I am stumped. I hope it is an easy fix and not a coil as they are kind of pricey from what I have seen. Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.

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EJID Serious Thumper Offline Work to ride and ride to work. Posts: 1536 Pocatello, ID Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #1 - 10/06/09 at 15:23:47 I believe there are 3 safety switches that must be met 1 - Kill Switch (check) 2 - Clutch Lever (check) 3 - Neutral (unknown) If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will point you in the right direction.
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Nerfherder YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33 Fort Campbell, KY Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #2 - 10/06/09 at 15:27:07 Ah I forgot to mention, had it in neutral and the neutral light comes on.
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EJID Serious Thumper Offline Work to ride and ride to work. Posts: 1536 Pocatello, ID Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #3 - 10/06/09 at 15:31:36 There is also a kickstand switch, but it usually only affect it if you put it down while the bike is in gear. Just as a test, you might try lifting the kickstand too. I usually start mine with 1. switch on 2. clutch pulled in 3. in neutral 4. sitting on it with the kickstand up
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Nerfherder YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33 Fort Campbell, KY Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #4 - 10/06/09 at 15:32:48 Started it many times with the stand down and in neutral, but tried it with the stand up when I was testing everything else as well. Nothing. The engine cranks great just missing spark. Tried a new plug as well. Nothing.
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EJID Serious Thumper Offline Work to ride and ride to work. Posts: 1536 Pocatello, ID Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #5 - 10/06/09 at 15:36:14 I haven't been much further than that to try and diagnose an electrical issue with this bike, so someone else might be of more assistance. But, on my snowmobiles I have had where the plug wire attaches to the plug cap come loose before causing it not to start. Could it be something along those lines?
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Nerfherder YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33 Fort Campbell, KY Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #6 - 10/06/09 at 15:38:04 Nah I have checked all the connections and anything as I have had that same problem on snowmachines as well.
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EJID Serious Thumper Offline Work to ride and ride to work. Posts: 1536 Pocatello, ID Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #7 - 10/06/09 at 15:39:09 Anyone else able to chime in and help a fellow rider? I'm plum out of easy fixes today
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #8 - 10/06/09 at 15:52:00 Engine won't crank if the safeties were the issue. We had a problem like just a few days ago. Turned out to be the connector on the CDI being corroded. Question for everyone... If the low side of the coil is shorted to ground, will it spark? If so, then easy way to check coil.
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Nerfherder YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33 Fort Campbell, KY Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #9 - 10/06/09 at 15:55:42 I checked out the connectors on the CDI. They looked pretty clean. Im totally stumped.
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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #10 - 10/06/09 at 17:58:35 Did you get her started? Got enough gasoline?
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Nerfherder YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33 Fort Campbell, KY Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #11 - 10/06/09 at 18:07:53 Half a tank of gas, havent got her started. Still no spark. Also as far as I understand, the low side is a switched ground through the CDI. It also grounds out through the frame.
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Online PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6142 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #12 - 10/06/09 at 18:33:02 D diode
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Nerfherder YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 33 Fort Campbell, KY Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #13 - 10/06/09 at 18:35:19 D Diode? What is that and where is it located?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: No Spark Reply #14 - 10/06/09 at 20:00:28 I don't think it's the side stand diode (only exposed diode that I know of) Neutral light works and starter turns over. If either circuit of this diode is burnt out, one or the other or both won't work.
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