SuzukiSavage.com - other size shocks?

seviersavage Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 364 Smoky Mountains Tennessee Gender:	other size shocks? 10/01/09 at 05:14:32 I'm looking at some suzuki intruder shocks, but they are 12 1/2 inches eye to eye. Is this workable? Is it going to change the handleing to the point I might regret it? Anybody else running this size shock? Seviersavage
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #1 - 10/01/09 at 05:40:07 Serowbot has those on his,so they must work ok
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #2 - 10/01/09 at 08:52:46 I have been using 12.5" Progressive shocks for several years and like them very much. I really like the extra inches of movement available for those hard bumps or holes, and I also like the effect on the front end which creates a slightly quicker steering response. Do it.
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seviersavage Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 364 Smoky Mountains Tennessee Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #3 - 10/01/09 at 09:29:22 All right Lancer, twist my arm. . . . I did it. Sevier
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #4 - 10/02/09 at 04:28:27 Just for general info, if anyone out there has a set or is planning to get a set of PRogressive shocks they want to mount on the LS650, I have a couple of spare sets of the inserts needed to make it work. $15 ea incl shp
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seviersavage Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 364 Smoky Mountains Tennessee Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #5 - 10/02/09 at 08:20:12 And If I like these new shocks like I think I will I'll be selling my progressive 412 - 4005's 11 inches for what I paid, I'm just a little too big for these. They have about 600 miles on them. 100.00 dollars shipped. Sevier
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #6 - 10/03/09 at 01:56:25 Suzuki 800 Intruder shocks... Buy a $3.00 hockey puck and bolt it to the bottom of the kickstand....
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sansone YaBB Newbies Offline gary@sansoneservices .com Posts: 35 Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #7 - 10/03/09 at 07:48:20 those 4005's too light for me?? my butt is 157 pounds and I like a soft ride
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seviersavage Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 364 Smoky Mountains Tennessee Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #8 - 10/03/09 at 07:57:21 Those 4005's are too light for me, I'm 240 lbs they would be perfect for you. I've got them on their stiffest setting and they are almost right. Thanks Serowbot for the pic, Looks good. I don't get how the shocks would change geometry concerning your kickstand though. But I'll remember that. Sevier
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #9 - 10/03/09 at 08:06:37 Because it lifts the back higher.
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Reply #10 - 10/03/09 at 09:50:09

seviersavage wrote on 10/03/09 at 07:57:21:

I don't get how the shocks would change geometry concerning your kickstand though. But I'll remember that.
Sevier

Oh,..it will,....You also need to check for the belt rubbing against the beltguard at the front pulley,.. if it does,.. no biggie, just grind away the offending part of the guard. It's only a tiny bit... My beltguard is off completely 'cause I like it that way...
I also found the belt rubbed very slightly against a side case bolt,... changing it from a hex head to a domed allen head fixed that. It only touched on full shock compression..
The other thing,... the reserve level of your petcock will change... less main, more reserve... trim the main tube of the petcock to adjust that... Raptor petcock has a little less reserve to start with..
Oil site glass will change a bit too... but not significantly...

Whew!... one little thing, makes so many other things different... but that's the nature of modding....

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Reply #11 - 10/03/09 at 10:09:07

LANCER wrote on 10/02/09 at 04:28:27:

Just for general info, if anyone out there has a set or is planning to get a set of PRogressive shocks they want to mount on the LS650, I have a couple of spare sets of the inserts needed to make it work.

This dude selling progressive shocks sized for the Intruder 800 says they are a direct bolt on, and I thought the Intruder shocks just bolted onto the Savage.. so what inserts are necessary? Is there a spacer under the upper acorn nut?

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Reply #12 - 10/03/09 at 10:37:12

Boule’tard wrote on 10/03/09 at 10:09:07:

I thought the Intruder shocks just bolted onto the Savage.. so what inserts are necessary? Is there a spacer under the upper acorn nut?

Direct bolt-on, is often a relative term... the devil's in the details... Undecided

See my post above yours... it would apply to any shock you put on, over 12" tall... Wink

Here's a view of the swingarm and fork angle difference... notice the angle of the muffler to the swingarm, no interference, but close... sag takes half of that away when you sit on it...

I should make a post in the tech section on tall shocks... so I don't keep repeating myself... Apologies...

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Reply #13 - 10/03/09 at 15:14:32

Misc. rubber and plastic for jacking up the sidestand.. check
Set of stainless, grindable allen case bolts.. check
Lack of belt gaurds.. check

But.. CRAPPITY-SMACK if my Dyna muffler isn't sligtly more upswept, and it extends all the way to the rear axle. That means it will probably hit the swingarm with shocks 2" longer.

I cannot thank you enough Serowbot, you saved me some headaches. If this mod is to be done with the dyna muffler on, it will have to be a 1" increase instead of 2" Sad

If I get time today I may lift the bike, remove the shocks, and see exactly what happens when the eye-to-eye distance is made 12.5" instead of 10.5"

I agree that this would make a good thread for the tech section, and would not mind re-posting.

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sansone YaBB Newbies Offline gary@sansoneservices .com Posts: 35 Gender:	Re: other size shocks? Reply #14 - 10/03/09 at 16:33:20 I'm starting to wonder If the small compression distance is the problem on my factory new shocks. My brain might be gone, sure seems like a hard ride to me. expensive to keep changing shocks
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