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smokin_blue Serious Thumper Offline From Cafes to Streetfighters! I build them all! Posts: 830 St. Paul, MN Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #30 - 09/24/09 at 18:25:37 rare but could be a tosted CDI or did the timing jump on the cam chain.
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Reply #31 - 09/24/09 at 22:39:23

RocksimusMaximus wrote on 09/24/09 at 18:17:09:

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 09/24/09 at 14:23:01:

Was there any slightly louder than normal knocking noises before it died?

The reason I ask , what you described is what the previous owner of the Savage I had said happened to it. He said it felt like it had run out of gas. He quickly switched to res and got it started for a second or two then nothing. Would crank fine, just didn't ever catch. His problem turned out to be a melted piston. So..... Do a real compression test with a gauge, so we can cross that off the list.

Headed to Auto Zone to get a compression gauge. That carburetor is clean as a whistle now... and still getting the same crank but no catch problem.

Have a real bad feeling I get to spend my day tomorrow pullin that motor.

Have you fed that engine a combustible gas yet? WD 40 or a small wisp of ether ( starting fluid)?

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RocksimusMaximus Junior Member 2005 No Login Offline Posts: 51	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #32 - 09/24/09 at 23:01:23 T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 09/24/09 at 14:23:01: Have you fed that engine a combustible gas yet? WD 40 or a small wisp of ether ( starting fluid)? Yep. WD 40. Didn't make any difference. Not really sure what that tells me though...
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Reply #33 - 09/24/09 at 23:40:08

FIRST check oil level in case petrol has gone down into oil , then get a BRAND NEW SPARK PLUG, next remove old plug from cylinder and spin the engine with starter to clear and dry out cylinder,get a bit of tubing that fits into plug hole (or use a syringe if you have one) and pore two teaspoons of petrol down tube into cylinder about five ml. Remove tube insert NEW!! SPARK PLUG..No choke,, No throttle. Ign ON! hit starter,BANG thump thump thump

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28642 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #34 - 09/25/09 at 00:20:16 Put down that gun!... Time to stock up on some beer and hot dogs, and take Versy up on his offer... He'll get you rollin'!....
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FreeSpirit Serious Thumper Offline Joy is my Compass ! Posts: 3823 North Georgia Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #35 - 09/25/09 at 00:36:19 If the gas was contaminated/bad....wouldnt it still be a good idea to drain the gas and put fresh gas in? I dont think I've seen this mentioned. I know Verslagen is going over.Well I think he is. But I'm just wondering if this would help anyway. No doubt verslagen could get it running though
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kennycreed Senior Member Alliance Member Offline Posts: 348 Island Of Lewis SCOTLAND Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #36 - 09/25/09 at 01:06:12 If any of the switches are faulty, example, kill switch off engine wont turn, clutch switch, foot stand switch, you wont get a spark at the plug, so if you are getting a spark at the plug when you test it, all your switches are ok
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Reply #37 - 09/25/09 at 03:19:46

RocksimusMaximus wrote on 09/24/09 at 23:01:23:

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 09/24/09 at 14:23:01:

Have you fed that engine a combustible gas yet? WD 40 or a small wisp of ether ( starting fluid)?

If the carb wasnt feeding fuel to the engine, the WD 40's propellant should have fired it & proved you had a fuel delivery prob/

Yep. WD 40. Didn't make any difference. Not really sure what that tells me though...

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Bubba Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 956 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #38 - 09/25/09 at 07:02:11 I know, stupid...but have you tried to pop start it? Just bypass the starter altogether...just a thought.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #39 - 09/25/09 at 08:12:31 I cant wait to find out what this booger is.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #40 - 09/25/09 at 09:23:25 You gotta volt meter? This wouldn't kill the bike while running but... You can crank and still not start. the ig circuit is voltage sensitive. one bad cell is all it takes.
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PhilM Full Member Offline Posts: 127 England (Twyford) Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #41 - 09/25/09 at 10:19:51 I agree it may be the battery. My motor would turn over but not fire and I cleaned my carb twice before I realised my battery was shot. Have you been using an auto battery charger on it (like I did ) Does it not hold a charge for long? I'd certainly recommend you get a meter on it and check it is ok.
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Reply #42 - 09/25/09 at 10:25:35

PhilM wrote on 09/25/09 at 10:19:51:

I agree it may be the battery. My motor would turn over but not fire and I cleaned my carb twice before I realised my battery was shot.

Have you been using an auto battery charger on it (like I did Embarrassed

) Does it not hold a charge for long? I'd certainly recommend you get a meter on it and check it is ok.

Using a battery tender. Seems to hold a charge fine. And from my understanding... when I tried to jump it with a car battery (bypassing the bikes battery)... that would have started it if the problem was the battery.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #43 - 09/25/09 at 10:49:20 Does it sound like its turning over faster that it used to?
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False Illusion Full Member Offline Two digits down as we're passin'! Posts: 202 Dayton/Southwest Ohio Gender:	Re: 24 hours later... Help? Reply #44 - 09/25/09 at 10:55:25 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/25/09 at 08:12:31: I cant wait to find out what this booger is. +1 Rock...Take Verslagen up on his offer and document the experience with pix and even video...youtube it so we can all get a glimpse of this anomaly...
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