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Exhaust Removal
08/31/09 at 17:44:37

My pipes have the blues...

I got some blue-job and ready to spend the time and elbow grease to get them cleaned up.

I've never taken an exhaust of the bike before (nothing more than the seat really).

Anything I need to know, tips or tricks, or extra parts I should have on hand before I go wrenching off all my pipes.

I see on page 218 of the Clymer manual that I might need a new gasket before putting back together. What am i using to get the right amount of ft-lbs of pressure on the bolts and clamps? I was just going to tighten until 'tight'.

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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6056 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #1 - 08/31/09 at 17:55:52 one pipe on the ls 650 your oem pipe got the blues?? never had the carb tuned my guess..
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #2 - 08/31/09 at 18:01:29 Routy wrote on 08/31/09 at 17:58:32: Mine got the blues too. Is that bad ? Rich
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Reply #3 - 08/31/09 at 18:04:31

Get you a can of PB Blaster. Spray all the nuts and bolts before you try to loosen them. Get a new exhaust gasket before you start. My local dealership didn't have one in stock and had to order it. Took 5 days to get it. Spray the joint where the muffler connects to the exhaust pipe several times with the PB Blaster. Getting the muffler loose from the header is the toughest part. The torque setting for motor mounts and header bolts are in the Clymer manual. If you haven't jetted your carb it will all be in vain. A couple trips around the block and your pipe will be blue again.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #4 - 08/31/09 at 22:49:03 You might be ahead to start with jetting the carb, so it wont turn blue when you are done.
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Lazy Old Rider Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 73	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #5 - 09/01/09 at 12:26:44 BLUE!!!! KEWL Keep it , it shows you use her
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Rocco Serious Thumper Offline addicted 2 riding TcB Posts: 1049 south florida Gender:	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #6 - 09/01/09 at 12:47:30 is there supposed to be a gasket between the header and engine? i don't think mine has one there!
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Re: Exhaust Removal
Reply #7 - 09/01/09 at 13:49:40

Rocco wrote on 09/01/09 at 12:47:30:

is there supposed to be a gasket between the header and engine? i don't think mine has one there!

It's called a gasket but it's more like a large thin washer with something chalky on it. It flattens when you tighten the two header bolts. It sometimes stays in the header hole when the header is removed so look for it there. If you leave it out, you will probably get more BANG and I know how much you like that, Rocco! Grin

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Rocco Serious Thumper Offline addicted 2 riding TcB Posts: 1049 south florida Gender:	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #8 - 09/01/09 at 20:48:55 oh ok! well what i've put my header through wrappin it and removing the old muffler i doubt it's there....but oh well and did u say more bang?? i will take it out myself if it hasn't already fallen off !!!
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BurnPgh Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1732	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #9 - 09/01/09 at 23:43:38 I dont believe my exhaust has a gasket either. Seems to have little effect on my "bang".
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matt Full Member Offline da na na na na mattman Posts: 228 Winter Springs, FL Gender:	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #10 - 09/02/09 at 09:23:25 I didnt think mine had one since i had never actually removed it before, after i ordered one i realized i had one, replaced it anyway.
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Re: Exhaust Removal
Reply #11 - 09/02/09 at 10:01:37

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/31/09 at 22:49:03:

You might be ahead to start with jetting the carb, so it wont turn blue when you are done.

Can I re-jet the carb and not change the muffler?
If so what settings should I use?
Loss of power anywhere?

Would like to get a 'new' muffler
A)Jardine
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JARDINE-RUMBLER-S-O-MUFFLER-SLASH-RT-SUZUKI-SA...
or
B) Take-off muffler Harley Sportster 1200.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p2897.m38.l1313&_nkw=muffler+Harley+S...

and I like this idea too:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1250442950/32#32

Did you end up doing that Rocco?
How it turn out?

The blue is on pretty much just on the oem pipe coming out of the engine and at the joint where the muffler meets the heat-shield.

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Re: Exhaust Removal
Reply #12 - 09/02/09 at 10:17:21

matt wrote on 09/02/09 at 09:23:25:

I didnt think mine had one since i had never actually removed it before, after i ordered one i realized i had one, replaced it anyway.

It's SUPPOSED to be replaced with a new one every time you take off the header pipe, because it flattens out with just one install. HOWEVER, I have re-used it with no noticeable problems except maybe slightly more popping. OR, I have put in two used ones instead of one new one, and that seems to work okay too.

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Reply #13 - 09/02/09 at 11:26:54

go the harley route. Much cheaper. Ineclipse has a debaffled jardine and its LOUD. How loud? When we ride together and are passing a semi he'll speed up to the cab and let the throttle off. The ensuing rumble is significantly louder than a semis jake brake and the driver almost always starts slowing down, probably thinking something broke. We then speed merrily past. I have heard the baffled version of the same jardine and its about as loud as my Screaming Eagle slashcut. Jardine = $150 +/- , SE = $25 brand new on ebay.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Exhaust Removal Reply #14 - 09/03/09 at 01:27:50 I think the best looking muffler is the Dyna. The Supertrapp isnt as good looking, but its tunable.
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