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Reply #15 - 08/30/09 at 07:26:23

After many moons of wrenching, I have learned the whole secret is to not break any screws in the first place. And I'm tellin ya, it take a lot of experience to get the "feel" of how far to push it before you just give it a break, and soak it, hammer on it, impact driver it.....back and forth, on and on, whatever it takes, but it WILL come loose in time.

If these bike are a real problem w/ this, maybe we should back them out now, (later models) and never seize them Undecided

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: $@#%$ screw! Reply #16 - 08/30/09 at 07:30:13 i even removed the front bulbs just 2 make sure i wasn't crazy Well, allright! Ive had my front 2 out, so now I can feel good that Im not crazy? Whewwww! Ive been a sweatin that.
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danibugg Junior Member Offline Posts: 59 PNW Gender:	Re: $@#%$ screw! Reply #17 - 08/30/09 at 20:02:52 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/30/09 at 07:30:13: so now I can feel good that Im not crazy? Whewwww! Ive been a sweatin that. Well, I don't know if the jury is out on that one...
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ODSavage YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 15	Re: $@#%$ screw! Reply #18 - 08/30/09 at 20:15:48 I was able to use a dremel tool to cut a slot into the screw and use a flat head screwdriver to remove it once.
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: $@#%$ screw! Reply #19 - 11/24/09 at 22:37:46 The best treatise I've ever seen on stuck fasteners was this thread on my ST1100 forum. http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/121083.html?1258915684 Pay special attention to the posts by Norm Keller. This guy is the real deal. IHTH someone!
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Reply #20 - 11/25/09 at 06:11:38

I know it sounds like a joke, but go purchase some LEFT-HANDED DRILL BITS. You will need a reversible drill to use them. The idea is that the normal drill bit turns the same way the screw turns when it is tightened, while the left-handed bit turns the way the screw turns when it is loosened. Using the left-handed bit, the bit is "trying" to loosen the scew while you are drilling the hole for the EZ-out. If you get really lucky, the drill will remove the screw for you.

Someone else made reference to it, but the screws used in Japanese motorcycles are NOT Phillips screws. A Phillips screwdriver will damage the screw head holes if the screws are tight. The screws are JIS (I think) and believe it or not, the screwdrivers in your much-maligned tool kit actually fit them.

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Reply #21 - 11/25/09 at 08:54:07

I was in the same situation last week with the freaking master cylinder screw stripped freaking bare. I was convinced that I would have to remove the MC, but picked up a 3 piece screw extractor set at sears for $10.00 here (website says $15, but got it for $10): http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00952154000P?sid=BVReview
It has a 1/4" bit end. I picked up one of those magnetic screw drivers in the bargain bin for $3.00 on the way out the door. Inserted the extractor into the screwdriver, lined it up, gave it a tap with a hammer, the extractor grabbed the head and it slowly came out with a bit of patience. The grabbing power was amazing.

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Reply #22 - 11/25/09 at 18:50:57

Charon wrote on 11/25/09 at 06:11:38:

Someone else made reference to it, but the screws used in Japanese motorcycles are NOT Phillips screws. A Phillips screwdriver will damage the screw head holes if the screws are tight. The screws are JIS (I think) and believe it or not, the screwdrivers in your much-maligned tool kit actually fit them.

Thanks - that is good information to know!

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Reply #23 - 11/27/09 at 05:21:48

speedingman wrote on 08/30/09 at 06:53:43:

Add an impact driver to your tool collection, you just hit the but of it and it turns the screw out.

heres one!
http://www0.shopping.com/xPO-Impact_Hand_Impact_Driver_Tool

I agreed, for almost all the screws I take out of bike now I use the impact driver first.

Until I bought one at Auto-Zone, I though my friend who had one was nuts for always using it. Now I know he was a learn'd soul.... guru of fixing old bikes......

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Reply #24 - 11/27/09 at 08:55:17

I have a Ryobi battery powered 1/4 impact. It drills & runs screws with great ease. I havent needed it on the bike, but I will not hesitate if I do. I have a hand held, hammersmakkin type impact & a 3/8ths & a 1/2" air type, but the little battery powered dude is really handy, so Ill try it first. Itll drive a dry wall screw into hard wood, & unlike using a drill, It wont knock ya off a ladder with the torque. Goes a LONG time on a charge & charges up pretty fast.

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Reply #26 - 11/27/09 at 09:16:29

The worst, In my eyes, was my exhaust flange bolt was seized in the head.

I tried penetrating oil, heat, shocking it, and everything. Bolt shill sheared and the fun began.

Drilled it for an ez out, stripped the ez out. Finally drilled the entire bolt out and used a dentist pick to remove the threads. Re tapped the hole to make sure all was good.

About 6 hours total. What a crock.

I guess thats to be expected from a bike that sat outside for 3 years.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: $@#%$ screw! Reply #27 - 11/27/09 at 12:31:45 About 6 hours total. What a crock. HA! I coulda easily done it in 8 or 10...you got off light.
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runwyrlph Serious Thumper Offline Semper ubi sub ubi Posts: 846 pa Gender:	Re: $@#%$ screw! Reply #28 - 11/27/09 at 19:06:35 think i could do that in 6 days!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: $@#%$ screw! Reply #29 - 11/27/09 at 20:57:21 OOOKay, Show of hands, Who here REally thinks he was bragging that he got that skinny little busted off bolt out of that hard to get to area "Down there" on the head in only 6 hours??? I do, I do,, & frankly, I dont blame him
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