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vhfkid Full Member Offline Thumpin' in ETEX Posts: 138 East Texas Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #60 - 09/01/09 at 09:25:37 voldigicam wrote on 08/31/09 at 18:29:58: Has me thinking I will keep this bike - feels more snappy. Shifts adequately. And the Corbin seat availability gives me hope! You're welcome I will accept donations to cover fuel to get the bikes back!! VHFKID
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #61 - 09/04/09 at 07:33:23 Put in the mobil1 20w50 last night, and a new filter. Measured the temperature with my trusty ir temp meter, 206°, just like it has all week with the 5w40 rotella.
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Re: Rotella motor oil
Reply #62 - 09/04/09 at 12:18:07

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/30/09 at 02:14:33:

BTW, I generously assumed you kept a magnet on your oil filer and kept your oil in the case for a full year like I do -- but you don't, do you? You change your oil at least twice a year, don't you? So, the cost advantage for Rotella Syn is really over twice as much as said above, isn't it?

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Umm, may I as what the magnet is for?

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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #64 - 09/04/09 at 13:10:14 Well more attention is the last thing I need... unless you mean me -- paying more attention...
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vhfkid Full Member Offline Thumpin' in ETEX Posts: 138 East Texas Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #65 - 09/04/09 at 13:14:05 verslagen1 wrote on 09/04/09 at 07:33:23: Put in the mobil1 20w50 last night, and a new filter. Measured the temperature with my trusty ir temp meter, 206°, just like it has all week with the 5w40 rotella. Thanks for the info! But were any of us, or you, expecting it to run cooler?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #66 - 09/04/09 at 13:41:46 babyhog wrote on 09/04/09 at 13:10:14: Well more attention is the last thing I need... unless you mean me -- paying more attention... No not you, If you needed a magnet Suzuki engineers would have put one there.
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Re: Rotella motor oil
Reply #67 - 09/04/09 at 13:43:14

vhfkid wrote on 09/04/09 at 13:14:05:

verslagen1 wrote on 09/04/09 at 07:33:23:

Put in the mobil1 20w50 last night, and a new filter.
Measured the temperature with my trusty ir temp meter, 206°,
just like it has all week with the 5w40 rotella.

Thanks for the info!
But were any of us, or you, expecting it to run cooler? Huh

No I wasn't expecting it to run cooler. I have to use klotz for that to happen. Roll Eyes

Just reporting that M1 is just as efficient as RotSyn in conveying the heat from the internal parts to the exterior.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #68 - 09/04/09 at 13:47:55 You must have some sludge left in the pan from the Diesel oil,2 quarts want get me to the bottom line, It take almost 2 1/2 quarts to get to top line, the more oil the cooler the oil will be.
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Re: Rotella motor oil
Reply #69 - 09/04/09 at 14:14:09

Babyhog,

Magnets are used on oil filters to remove fine bits of ferrous metal that would otherwise circulate in the oil. The idea is explained in detail here.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1197231468/0

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Please excuse Bill, he is a little bit grumpy from losing another oil war again. Bill is a fan of Klotz oil, but he can't show that it is better than the other contenders, just more expensive.

Bill doesn't lose very gracefully, so you can expect a stream of one liners that will attempt to derail other discussions. Bill unfortunately likes to throw out incorrect information intentionally in an attempt to confuse and irritate once he starts to lose.

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Verslagen is attempting an experiment to see if a thicker synthetic oil will help his oil consumption issues. He is reporting set up data, that the thicker oil doesn't change operating temperature conditions in any meaningful fashion. What this has to do with diesel oil and sump capacity aka Bill, who knows? Verslagen is changing over from Rotella Syn 5w40 to Mobil 1 Syn 20w50 and he is reporting what he sees with this change.

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Babyhog? What does the name mean? Curious .....

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Re: Rotella motor oil
Reply #70 - 09/04/09 at 14:20:54

bill67 wrote on 09/04/09 at 13:47:55:

You must have some sludge left in the pan from the Diesel oil,2 quarts want get me to the bottom line, It take almost 2 1/2 quarts to get to top line, the more oil the cooler the oil will be.

More likely Klotz is selling you the new concentrated version of oil. Weren't you supposed to add something to get it to full size?

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #71 - 09/04/09 at 15:15:50 People please read page 911 in your owners manual. Use Diesel oil,Put magnets in your engine,Use car tires instead of motorcycles tires,Take out the tuned air box and play around with anything you want.
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Re: Rotella motor oil
Reply #72 - 09/04/09 at 15:41:46

Yup, and Bill will be there whenever we finally do get a Savage motor to spin fast enough to blow it up.

And he will gleefully tell us that if we had just used Klotz syn oil, that hot cam, the increased compression and the flowed head would not have blown up the engine because the Klotz would have glued the con ron together with its superior lubricating qualities.

Or more likely, he'll blame the diesel oil in the crankcase first and then tell us about the Klotz ....

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella motor oil Reply #73 - 09/04/09 at 15:57:23 Seriously You should use a racing synthetic if you intend to get more horses out of it,Klotz is one of the first racing synthetics,I don't hop up or race but I do think its worth the extra money.
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Re: Rotella motor oil
Reply #74 - 09/05/09 at 19:58:09

Oldfeller,
Thanks for the link on the magnet. Makes sense... I'm just new to all this stuff and enjoying learning. Ya'll have me so confused about oil, I hate to see the time come when I have to change mine... lol But I guess I need to go find me a magnet!

The name "babyhog"... well, the guys my husband works with were teasing that my bike looked like a little baby hog. Plus, when we stop at red lights and such, I rev my engine, then my hubby revs his and I tell him to stop picking on my baby hog. So the name just kinda popped into my head when I was trying to pick a screen name....

I've often wondered what some of the other screen names mean too. Maybe I'll start a thread for people to explain theirs.... heck, that's probably been done. I need to use the search engine more....

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