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Re: Turn signal wiring diagnosis
Reply #15 - 08/27/09 at 08:27:28
 
It would be a lot easier if I could see the setup, then I would have a better Idea of what is going on lol. Does everything have good clean grounds? What does your speedometer lights do?
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Reply #16 - 08/27/09 at 08:32:51
 
Savage_Amusement wrote on 08/27/09 at 08:27:28:
It would be a lot easier if I could see the setup, then I would have a better Idea of what is going on lol. Does everything have good clean grounds? What does your speedometer lights do?


My "ground" wires are reading about 0.5V ... I would have thought they should definitely read 0.0V

Speedometer lights seem to flash correctly when I only have one side hooked up...once I hook up the other side, things get messy. So I might just have problems on one side.

Worst part is, I only have about 10 minutes or so working time before the battery is too dead to drive the flasher relay Sad, then I have to charge the battery, and start again.

I'm starting to get the feeling there is a bigger problem somewhere else.
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Reply #17 - 08/27/09 at 08:36:39
 
Yeah your battery should last longer than 10 mins. I will sometimes leave my battery on the charger (trickle) while I'm testing out my issues. That way as soon as the switch goes off the charging starts.
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Re: Turn signal wiring diagnosis
Reply #18 - 08/27/09 at 08:39:24
 
10 minutes of flasher time?  either your battery is toast or you gotta short.  check the flasher, does it get hot?

And if it starts acting screwy when the other side is hooked up, check that side wiring.  Or unhook the 1st side then hook up 2nd side 1st.

1/2 volt ground?  should be 0 volts.  you gotta fix that.  check the ground from the battery to the engine.
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Reply #19 - 08/27/09 at 08:41:19
 
verslagen1 wrote on 08/27/09 at 08:39:24:
10 minutes of flasher time?  either your battery is toast or you gotta short.  check the flasher, does it get hot?

And if it starts acting screwy when the other side is hooked up, check that side wiring.  Or unhook the 1st side then hook up 2nd side 1st.

1/2 volt ground?  should be 0 volts.  you gotta fix that.  check the ground from the battery to the engine.


Looking at the wiring diagram, I can't tell where the battery is actually grounded to the frame. I have a '96.
I think I have a grounding, and possibly shorting problem.
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Reply #20 - 08/27/09 at 08:57:10
 
If I disconnect the positive and negative leads from the battery, I'm assuming that the two turn signal 'hot' wires should have NO continuity with the frame ground?
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Re: Turn signal wiring diagnosis
Reply #21 - 08/27/09 at 09:01:17
 
Mattdw wrote on 08/27/09 at 08:41:19:
Looking at the wiring diagram, I can't tell where the battery is actually grounded to the frame. I have a '96.
I think I have a grounding, and possibly shorting problem.

check the battery, follow the wire, should attache to the engine right behind the oil level window.
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Reply #22 - 08/27/09 at 09:02:09
 
one of the major grounds on my bike is right behind the clutch lever, no not the one for your hand, the one that goes into the right lower case.
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Reply #23 - 08/27/09 at 09:51:47
 
Pull your headlight bulb while you figure this out.... it'll help with battery life.......
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Reply #24 - 08/27/09 at 12:07:22
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/27/09 at 09:51:47:
Pull your headlight bulb while you figure this out.... it'll help with battery life.......


Great suggestion Smiley
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Reply #25 - 08/27/09 at 12:09:16
 
I'm looking to check for any short there may be in the system...because my battery life is so bad.

With the ignition off (key out), I'm assuming I can simply disconnect pos or neg from battery, and put my ammeter inline and look for any current drain?
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Reply #26 - 08/27/09 at 12:27:20
 
If you have the seat off already you can unhook the two rear turn signals, sometimes they wear/rub the coating off under the side pieces. Might help to pull the tank off as well.

There is also some wires that go RIGHT next to the seat holder in the front that also holds down the tank, I've seen that pinched before.

Does the bulbs on the fronts have dual elements or single? That will make a difference as well.
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Re: Turn signal wiring diagnosis
Reply #27 - 08/28/09 at 06:57:09
 
Savage_Amusement wrote on 08/27/09 at 12:27:20:
If you have the seat off already you can unhook the two rear turn signals, sometimes they wear/rub the coating off under the side pieces. Might help to pull the tank off as well.

There is also some wires that go RIGHT next to the seat holder in the front that also holds down the tank, I've seen that pinched before.

Does the bulbs on the fronts have dual elements or single? That will make a difference as well.


Fronts have dual elements...rear ones do too (plan to have running lights on back)

This weekend is a 'wiring weekend'. I've been hoping I wouldn't have to tear her all down, but, not something I'm scared of...I've had the tank off before, and seats and such.

When I got the bike, the vacuum wasn't hooked to the petcock (ran out of gas cause it was on PRI), and the air filter was gone altogether...and the rear brake pedal return spring was unhooked...and...and...and...and...

You get the idea, but all in all, she's been a fun ride.

I would be lying if I said I didn't love to tear it down and do this kind of stuff Smiley
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