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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #15 - 08/16/09 at 17:33:44 Im not seeing the Sea Foam as a cure for no power. Look at the battery first. If youve been struggling with it, I bet the battery is tired or dead. Once you get it spinning over, dont turn the throttle to start it. Make sure the idle is high enough.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #16 - 08/16/09 at 17:52:30 Sea Foam isn't going to give it any more power but if the slide isn't working right it will help that,And that could be the problem.
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Dj12midnit Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline If you'r here and I'm here isn't this our time? Posts: 1036 Lynden Wa. Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #17 - 08/16/09 at 17:53:14 I am thinking the idle. Needs the choke to get enough fuel then turning the throttle floods it. but then again what do I know.
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Reply #18 - 08/16/09 at 22:33:10

Thanks everybody for your advice, I know it's not the battery since I just bought a brand new one, charged it to 100% and installed it. I also know the carb isn't dirty and both of the diaphragms are in good shape. I'll try the sea foam in the gas. I already tried adjusting the idle, got it idling high and then low and both times when I gave it gas it still died.

Could it be that it's not getting enough air? I noticed when I put the carb back in it looks like there are two places where there should be some tubes coming out of the back of it and there's nothing there.

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Educatedredneck Senior Member Alliance Member Offline Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Posts: 458 Hampstead, Maryland Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #19 - 08/16/09 at 22:39:16 Those are vent tubes, one end on the carb, and the other end is just stuck up in the main frame rail under the fuel tank. Check your hoses from the tank, make sure everything is good. PM Lancer for carb advice.
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Reply #20 - 08/17/09 at 00:03:22

Glad you can getrstarted, hope these guys will soon realise that.

When you rebuilt the carb, did it go back together ok?

some common errors, not seating the diaphram of the slide correctly, not tightening the jets, leaving parts out, etc.

check the float level, get a piece of clear tubing for the nipple on the bottom of the carb (good luck I don't have one) hold it up against the side of the carb, turn the petcock to prime, gas should come up to the gasket on the bowl.

Do you have an air filter? clean?

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Savage_Amusement Serious Thumper Offline On this steel horse I ride. Posts: 1004 Omaha, NE Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #21 - 08/17/09 at 03:27:15 I'm just going to guess but could there be a petcock vac leak here? Take off the vac line going to the petcock and if it has any gas in it then that would def cause the motor to choke out. I thought choke made it run lean so it would be hot and warm up faster?
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Reply #22 - 08/17/09 at 10:27:52

The air filter is filthy, I'm thinking about doing the air filter nu foam + oil mod by Oldfeller2 since the PO changed the stock exhaust out for a slashcut sportster exhaust.

I took the carb apart and put it back together using the walk through by SavageWahine in the Technical Documents section, and I was very careful to put everything exactly back how I found it. So I don't think there is anything missing/messed up with the carb now. Though I didn't take apart the top diaphragm. I just left that whole thing together.

I'll check the petcock vaccuum line and see if there's gas in it. If there is what's the fix for that?

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Savage_Amusement Serious Thumper Offline On this steel horse I ride. Posts: 1004 Omaha, NE Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #23 - 08/17/09 at 11:53:54 You might just need a new line if your lucky. Other wise you might need a whole new petcock. There are a ton of posts on here about raptor 660 petcocks working just fine. Though you have to remember to turn it off and on all the time.
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Reply #24 - 08/17/09 at 14:25:35

iMc wrote on 08/17/09 at 10:27:52:

The air filter is filthy, I'm thinking about doing the air filter nu foam + oil mod by Oldfeller2 since the PO changed the stock exhaust out for a slashcut sportster exhaust.

I took the carb apart and put it back together using the walk through by SavageWahine in the Technical Documents section, and I was very careful to put everything exactly back how I found it. So I don't think there is anything missing/messed up with the carb now. Though I didn't take apart the top diaphragm. I just left that whole thing together.

I'll check the petcock vaccuum line and see if there's gas in it. If there is what's the fix for that?

excellent, the dirty filter will make run rich. You can try it w/o to see if it runs leans or just blow the filter out with air til you can fix it.

excellent, SW has good instructions. but leaving the slide uncleaned can be an issue, little bit of dirt on it and it hangs up. If you twist the grip and get delayed response, it needs to be cleaned or sea foam it.

SA left out the manual conversion of the petcock. cheap fix, just plug one port of the petcock and cap the carb.

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Savage_Amusement Serious Thumper Offline On this steel horse I ride. Posts: 1004 Omaha, NE Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #25 - 08/18/09 at 07:45:02 OH yeah thanks I did forget that. I haven't seen my old tank in almost a year so that didn't cross my mind.
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Tonydtiger1971 Senior Member Offline Yet while we were sinners Christ died for us Posts: 493 Dawsonville, GA Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #26 - 08/18/09 at 19:10:57 bill67 wrote on 08/16/09 at 16:53:24: I would try some Sea Foam in the gas,Its a carb cleaner you can get at Walmart or auto store. See and I just thought it was part of the bike's charm. On colder days I couldn't get mine to start without the choke pulled out for the first minute or so.
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Reply #27 - 08/18/09 at 22:01:11

Checked the petcock, no fuel in the vac line. Figured out that it runs if I leave the petcock on prime, but when I give it throttle or push the choke in after I get it started it dies. The sea foam seemed to help, I was able to give it some throttle while holding the choke out. I'm going to try running the bike like that through a full tank of gas with about half a can of sea foam added to it and see how it runs after that.

Also I've gone through 5 fuses in two days. Any idea why the bike would just continually blow the same fuse?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New Savage Owner with a Problem Reply #28 - 08/18/09 at 22:10:42 You gotta short most likely. Figgure out what you were doing when it blows. common places for shorts, headlight, lota wire runs thru there. under the tank, usually a wire gets mashed in the process of putting it back on. under seat not so often taillights occasionally. I'd take the carb apart and clean island style.
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Reply #29 - 08/19/09 at 02:11:21

Savage_Amusement wrote on 08/17/09 at 03:27:15:

I'm just going to guess but could there be a petcock vac leak here? Take off the vac line going to the petcock and if it has any gas in it then that would def cause the motor to choke out.

I thought choke made it run lean so it would be hot and warm up faster?

From what I've read on here, our choke doesn't function like the ones on a car, which closes a butterfly on in intake, and cuts off partial air flow. It's actually an enrichener which puts more gas into the airflow. Ok all you experts out there, am I right? Huh

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