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savageken YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17	oil change 08/13/09 at 15:58:52 have 2009 changed oil yesterday (500 miles) now have a leak from what appears the drain plug area. am sure i tightened the plug enough. has anyone else experienced this. what did i do wrong?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28725 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #1 - 08/13/09 at 16:44:19 Did you put the washer on?.... between the plug and the hole? If you did,.. wipe it clean down there, and give it an hour or two... if it still leaks, tighten it a little harder...
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savageken YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17	Re: oil change Reply #2 - 08/13/09 at 17:19:04 did not notice the washer. suspect that is the problem. will pick up a new one at the stellership tomorrow ($2.35) what a rip off. will change oil again and just consider the change and engine flush.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28725 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #3 - 08/13/09 at 18:01:13 Just catch the oil, and pour it back in... I'm a cheapskate,... can ya' tell?....
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PTRider Senior Member Offline Posts: 397	Re: oil change Reply #4 - 08/13/09 at 19:12:33 Most auto parts stores sell oil drain plug gaskets in all the various metric and fractional sizes in aluminum, copper, fiber, and plastic. If you get the diameter of the threads of your drain plug, you can get the gasket. I'd choose fiber or plastic for a plug in an aluminum casing
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Reply #5 - 08/13/09 at 21:33:24

Whenever I get a leaky drain plug on cars, bikes or anything else, I just unscrew the drain plug about 3 turns and take some teflon tape give it two wraps and retighten the plug. Works everytime. No teflon tape - some cotton kite string is a good substitute.
HINT - take the teflon tape and spin it in your fingers to make a teflon string. Easier to wrap around plug.
You are not sealing the plug threads, you are just adding material to the flange gasket area.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil change Reply #6 - 08/14/09 at 03:30:12 Thats a clever solution. Im always in the market for another one of those.
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sakara Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline Thumpalicious Posts: 313 Lockport, NY Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #7 - 08/14/09 at 06:42:54 I had some dirt/gravel/debris on a plug once that leaked. Even though I didn't notice, it musta got dirty before I screwed it back in and that much did the trick. A slow seap, rather. The washer, though, is more likely.
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JohnBoy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 825 Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #8 - 08/14/09 at 07:20:47 As long as we are talking oil...anybody got a NAPA or Fram part number for a Savage oil filter replacement?
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Reply #9 - 08/14/09 at 07:30:27

On some motorcycles the oil plug gasket seems to have a habit of staying on the crankcase instead of coming off with the plug. Then it falls into the pan into which you are collecting the oil. You then, not noticing the missing gasket, replace the plug and refill the oil. Only when you pour the used oil into whatever collection receptacle you use do you notice the gasket.

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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: oil change Reply #10 - 08/14/09 at 07:45:59 JohnBoy wrote on 08/14/09 at 07:20:47: As long as we are talking oil...anybody got a NAPA or Fram part number for a Savage oil filter replacement? Yeah, I wondered about that too.
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sakara Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline Thumpalicious Posts: 313 Lockport, NY Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #11 - 08/14/09 at 08:00:16 I've bookmarked this page for a while. http://www.tampabikers.com/oil_filters.htm Fram's 6178 seems to be ideal, bu I'm not an expert in this area.
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Reply #12 - 08/14/09 at 14:57:32

I don't think Fram has a filter for our engines
http://www.power-21.com/FramPower21i/RelatedInfo.aspx?b=F&f=FRAM/powersports_...

I know that WIX/NAPA lists the wrong filter. They list a spin-on filter, not the canister filter we have.

Hiflo has a good one, HF137, for about $7, probably special order, at any non-Suzuki cycle shop. Their air filter, HFA3608, about $15, is a good choice as well.
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/17.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=1289

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #13 - 08/14/09 at 15:13:29 Suzuki oil filter rated right at the top so why take a chance on something else,A lot of times saving a little money cost more in the long run.
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Re: oil change
Reply #14 - 08/14/09 at 15:22:13

I did find a Suzuki filter so I got that one for 7.95.
in the mean time I found some additional info:

OEM Suzuki filter (part number 16510-37450)
Height: (36 mm)
Outside Diameter: (60 mm)
PSI Relief Valve: 17.5
Anti Drain Back Valve: No
Style: Cartridge

K&N
Part KN-137 Product Specifications (shown as compatable from '86-'09) Cross references to Suzuki part numbers: 1651037440 and 1651037450 (the Suzuki parts guy said he thinks it is the same part and Suzuki changed the database...hince the new number)

(Also fits Suzuki DR650 from '91-'09)

Height: 1.457 in (37 mm)
Outside Diameter: 2.362 in (60 mm)
PSI Relief Valve: 17.84
Anti Drain Back Valve: No
Style: Cartridge

Sudco part number: 631-7137
Bell Industries number: 57021370
No NAPA part number found

I hope his helps some of you

JohnBoy

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