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dropping out of 2nd gear...
08/03/09 at 13:37:36

On hard accel, occasionally and much to my dismay (because usually i have a reason for accelerating hard) my bike will drop out of 2nd gear and into neutral.

This isn't me not shifting up high enough into 2nd, the bike gets going for half a second or so and then drops out. pisses me off when it happens, almost got caught between some mammoth SUV and a cement road-wall thing...

is this the clutch not engaging fully and being forced out? or could the gear be messed up?

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srinath Serious Thumper Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5349	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #1 - 08/03/09 at 13:54:17 Bad wear on the engagement dogs on that gear. Sorry. Cool. Srinath.
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spacepirates Serious Thumper Offline Igni Ferroque Posts: 515 Pittsburgh, PA Gender:	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #2 - 08/03/09 at 19:59:29 well that sucks. ... how hard is it to replace a gear?
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #3 - 08/03/09 at 23:03:38 full case split teardown -- all the way
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Reply #4 - 08/03/09 at 23:34:13

Can't do a darn thing to help you on this one. Give a bit of time. My Rebel did that frequently. From what I understand its a pretty common issue with 80's hondas but not something Ive heard of on the savage. Before you go tearing things apart from now on when you shift instead of "clutch, shift, release foot lever, release clutch" try keeping pressure on the shift lever until you let the clutch lever all the way back out. I've found myself mis-shifting lately. Up to nuetral but not all the way to first. If i keep pressure on the shift lever the whole way through the shift I dont have a problem.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28644 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #5 - 08/03/09 at 23:49:15 I had that problem when I first got mine, with 3200 miles on it... No problem now. I don't think the bike changed,... so,... just give it some time.
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spacepirates Serious Thumper Offline Igni Ferroque Posts: 515 Pittsburgh, PA Gender:	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #6 - 08/04/09 at 06:32:30 well, i've had my bike from about 5.5K to 12K+, and this is a recent development. not really sure how much time i should give it.... I'll try keeping pressure on the shifter. It'll take a while for me to remember to do that though... re-writing 10K+ (savage is my second bike) of shifting isn't going to be easy.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #7 - 08/04/09 at 07:10:54 You might try readjusting the shift arm. Might improve it might not. If you ever had it off, it might not have gotten back to the original location. I know it affects shifting, might affect it staying in gear too. I'd pull the arm off of the case and slip it 1 or 2 splines lower and see how it goes.
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Reply #8 - 08/04/09 at 07:25:50

hm... i might have obfuscated what is happening.

so, this isn't me being in second gear, cruising along happily and then the gear drops out.

this is me accelerating hard, clicking into second gear, it engaging for a split second and then dripping out.

i haven't had it happen with any other gear...

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You might try readjusting the shift arm. Might improve it might not.
If you ever had it off, it might not have gotten back to the original location. I know it affects shifting, might affect it staying in gear too.
I'd pull the arm off of the case and slip it 1 or 2 splines lower and see how it goes.

never had the shifter off, but i'll see what happens with it. i don't suppose adjusting the shifter could be horribly bad....

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Reply #9 - 08/04/09 at 09:00:33

OK the gears have a "last click" as I like to call it. You clutch and shift and stay on the shifter and it will click in ... that = perfect engagement. On my 48K GS 500, one time I missed a shift ~15K. I then did this perfect shift forever, and my transmission at the end of it, as checked out by the next owner was "like new".
You may have to do it that way form now on kiddo.
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spacepirates Serious Thumper Offline Igni Ferroque Posts: 515 Pittsburgh, PA Gender:	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #10 - 08/04/09 at 10:51:54 time to make a new, life-long habit of staying on the shifter... thanks for the tips, i'll try it out today and see how things go!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: dropping out of 2nd gear... Reply #11 - 08/04/09 at 22:52:44 If youre hard on it & wearing it out, then surely you are shifting up with some real gusto, right? Grab the clutch, slap the throttle closed & grab a gear? Ive had mine pop out a few times & Ive followed it up with a more concentrated effort to make a complete shift & it didnt keep happening.
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