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The belt on my 2003 Savage chirps badly under power. I bought it with 2,700 miles on the clock and a quiet belt. But the belt started to chirp within a couple of hundred miles and has steadily worsened since. Serowbot rode it and it was so loud to him that he thought something major mechanical was happening. We carefully aligned the rear wheel so the belt ran centered on the rear sprocket, checked for proper tension. We then talcum powdered the belt; this increased the noise about 5 fold, so it was the belt. Close inspection of the belt revealed that it was very shiny (glazed?) on the top of the teeth and on both sides and the front of the teeth to about 1/3 depth on the front engaged by the front sprocket under power. The cogs showed wear on the top and faces of the teeth and on the retaining plates on the sides. We cleaned the belt, attempted to reduce the glaze with abrasive and then sprayed it with PrimeFlo silicone lubricant. This effected a total cure; which lasted all of 5 miles. I then wire brushed the belt with strong detergent. It still chirps, but not quite as badly as before we started - but it is steadily getting louder. Various blogs on the internet reveal that chirping is a rare but recorded problem with Harley drives, no effective long-term cures being reported.
I am a serious cyclist and am very familiar with the problems associated with chain stretch and cog wear. So I made measurement of the belt; ten teeth for 5 ˝ inches, ie tooth pitch of 0.55 inches, depth 0.205 inches. Measurements of the cogs is not so easy but I think they are for the rear a tooth pitch of 0.535 inches with a depth of 0.255 inches and for the front a tooth pitch of 0.525 inches and a depth of 0.22 inches. All measurements made with a vernier gauge at the top of the teeth.
I am ignorant of the theory of cogged belt design so the following are just my thoughts on what I think may be happening. As the drive tooth rises to meet the belt, its rounded corner meets the rounded corner (or even possibly the top) of the belt tooth. The belt tooth slides against the rising cog tooth (or maybe even drops off the top of the cog tooth before sliding) until the top of the cog tooth is in contact with the belt between the belt tooth and the next belt tooth. As the belt is wrapped around the drive cog, the belt tooth pitch is significantly reduced, probably to very close to that of the cog teeth as it is a nice snug fit. This wrap effect maybe why the rear cog has a wider tooth pitch than the drive cog (but still less than the belt) as the larger diameter of wrap would not reduce the belt tooth pitch as much as is needed for the drive cog.
I surmise that the chirping is caused by the belt tooth as it slides (or pops off and slides) against the rapidly rising cog tooth. This is a very severe environment for any lubricant, which is why silicone spray only lasted a few miles and why the effect of removing the glazing was also short lived. I guess that the chirping problem is not very common as it is the result of either a stretched belt or one that was at the outer end of the manufacturing tolerance.
I would be very interested to hear anyone else’s thoughts or suggestions. I will experiment with various lubricants over time and, if none is of lasting success (lasting being, say, oil change intervals) I will change to chain drive - much cheaper than a new belt and the ratios suck for a one up 120lb rider!
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