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Reply #45 - 05/15/11 at 09:50:03
 
ok i did it - most of it - 52 & 152.5 - 1/2 turn CCW on the air fuel screw after removing the brass plug - idle screw remained in the same position - could not do the white spacer/washer mod - not comfortable digging that far in to the carb - has better more smooth acceleration - still crackles on decel - no shift pops - good mid range power - good 3 thru 5th gear accel - no bogging or hesitations in any gear but still BANGS on shut down ( is that the result of not doing the white spacer mod?)

more to it than i t6hought - had to take out the battery and remove the air box hose to get the carb out - could not see the slot on the 147 jet with the carb in the bike - did not want to booger it up so took the carb out to work on it.

there was a spacer on the 50 jet and i put it back on the 52 jet when i installed it.

glad i did it from a performance standpoint - would like the shut down BANG to go a way though.
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Reply #46 - 05/15/11 at 10:04:07
 
give the idle mixture another 1/8 turn or more till just poofs.
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Reply #47 - 06/27/11 at 17:13:15
 
does anyone have a picture of the spacer that is referred too?

how does one get a 1/2 spacer?

is the spacer located under the main jet?

my GF's savage has a bog just off the line in first gear, then it picks up.  I think it's a midrange circuit.....  seems to be rich enough on the bottom after adjusting the screw out to 3 turns.  suggestions?

thanks in advance!
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Reply #48 - 06/28/11 at 07:20:07
 
splitting_lanes wrote on 06/27/11 at 17:13:15:
does anyone have a picture of the spacer that is referred too?

how does one get a 1/2 spacer?

is the spacer located under the main jet?

my GF's savage has a bog just off the line in first gear, then it picks up.  I think it's a midrange circuit.....  seems to be rich enough on the bottom after adjusting the screw out to 3 turns.  suggestions?

thanks in advance!


I have even better than a picture. Check out this you tube video from RYCA motors. The video walks you through the white spacer mod and also how to change jets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFFuF9QZ4IM
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Reply #49 - 06/28/11 at 12:10:44
 
sbaugz wrote on 06/28/11 at 07:20:07:
splitting_lanes wrote on 06/27/11 at 17:13:15:
does anyone have a picture of the spacer that is referred too?

how does one get a 1/2 spacer?

is the spacer located under the main jet?

my GF's savage has a bog just off the line in first gear, then it picks up.  I think it's a midrange circuit.....  seems to be rich enough on the bottom after adjusting the screw out to 3 turns.  suggestions?

thanks in advance!


I have even better than a picture. Check out this you tube video from RYCA motors. The video walks you through the white spacer mod and also how to change jets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFFuF9QZ4IM

Thats GREAT!

I'm going to tune up her carb following those instructions.

Thanks!
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Reply #50 - 03/09/12 at 16:48:42
 
I am running a 1996 ls 650. I have a jardine slash cut slip on open muffler, k&n slip in filter. 152.5 main jet , 55 pilot jet , 3 turns out stock. And my bike rips and has only a few backfires when I hammer on it then let off fast. So that's just the extra fuel burning off. And I have no poof at all ever when I shut it off. Its set up perfect!!!! Sounds awesome. I love the sound of the jardine.
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Reply #51 - 05/23/12 at 13:59:55
 
Thanks a lot!!! This really helped me. THis have avaken the beast and doubled the force when over half throttle. I took out the carb today and expected a 145 main and a 52,5 pilot, but guess what!!! It had at 125 main and a 47,5 pilot!!!!!! Crazy. I guess it have been power restricted for a middle heavy class type motorsycle. A special system in norway where new and young drivers have only 30HP. This is the explanation for not responding at all before over half throttle. I made a speed record on the first small straight section I tested it.

I have a quite open mufflle (viper fish tail 22) and have installed a 44mm baffle to silence it a bit. I have stock air filter, but have removed the rubber intake wich I belive restrict the flow alot. I started out in the table in the first post with a 150-55-and 3whashers=1/2 spacer + 1/2 mixture. It worked excellent, but I had some shift pops and some pops on sudden shut down. Allso engine turn off poof. I looked in the table again and adjusted mix to 3/4. All pops anp poofs where gone. Even if I did my best to make them, there were no poofs.

This carb mod have really made the bike new. It runns so good that it is no need for moore power with such a frame ,sitting position dampers etc.

Thanks a lot for the help!!!!
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Reply #52 - 05/29/12 at 13:05:10
 
Hello to everyone.
on my Savage i have silvertail K02 exaust. and stock air filter
Can someone tell me what jetting i would use ?
Sorry for my bad english, i am from Serbia
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Reply #53 - 05/30/12 at 17:03:44
 
This is a great guide, will be using and will post results
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Reply #54 - 06/03/12 at 13:36:22
 
I went back to 1/2 mixture. I was lost before becauce of a stuck carb piston. Now it moves again and I notised some smoke on idle and black deposits inside exhaust. Now, with 1/2 mix it runs better and do not smoke. After s bit of "racing" the black inside my baffle looks like it has burnt away. I had to adjust the idle speed down after the adjustment.

It is just like the first post, first line with 55 pilot.
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Reply #55 - 06/21/12 at 07:41:00
 
so if i get an HD muffler i should go right to a stage 2?
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Reply #56 - 06/24/12 at 04:06:26
 
I have a situation I haven't yet found a reference for.  My ride to work is about 15 miles on 40 to 50 MPH county roads at sea level. Our lows are still dipping below 50 in the mornings. {There's something seriously wrong with wearing my winter gear in mid-June!! Lips Sealed} The bike is an '11 with about 2500 miles on it so far. She runs great, with only a little after-fire on decel and just a light pop on shutdown. The problem is what I think of as a "lean surge" when at a constant speed below about 50 mph, and below about 55 degrees. It almost feels like a miss, but not as dramatic as a true misfire. If I keep the choke out to the first notch {NOT full choke, what the shop manual calls the "enricher" position}, for the first third or so of the commute {when I hit the 50mph+ part of the drive} the problem stays away. If the temps are a little above 50 then I can usually leave the enricher off for the last third of the drive which is back down to 40 mph. However if the temps are below 50, especially down into the mid to low 40's, the enricher has to come back out after a mile or so at the lower speed.

So, the questions. What stage should I be looking at? Maybe just the spacer and mixture screw? Or is it normal for this engine to be so cold-blooded? Will running with the enricher out foul the plug, so long as the engine feels normal? IE: not lugging. Given the stated temps, how long would everybody expect to have run with the enricher on?

On particularly cold days I can run with the enricher out one notch even at 50+ mph for a couple of miles before she starts loading up. More normally I have to get it off as soon as I hit 50 which I'm guessing is when I'm getting into the main jet. On warmer days, 60 degrees and up, she runs perfectly with the enricher coming all the way off after only a mile or two. We've only hit 70 degrees a couple of times so far this year, and never during my commute window, so I'm not sure how fast she might warm up then. :'(

Sorry for the long winded post, and thanks for any advice!!  Mark
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Reply #57 - 06/30/12 at 12:41:58
 
in that video is that the spring you want to cut down 10mm? (not) off the entire length just spriraling up from the bottom right?
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