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06/03/09 at 11:41:42
 
So I did the white spacer mod this morning.  Now the bike drives like a moped.  No power to speak of.  She barely wants to do 45mph on a flat road.  Did I do something wrong?  I put in 2 #3 washers and adjusted the floats a little.  I'm supposes to go on a 6hr trip this Friday, and  this won't work.
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Reply #1 - 06/03/09 at 11:45:39
 
Mine runs great.  I removed the white spacer and replaced it with a stack of four 3mm washers, then put everything else back together exactly as it came apart.
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Reply #2 - 06/03/09 at 12:09:47
 
You did something wrong, allright Smiley But is that it? Meaning - no power?? No pops, black smoke, surging, flooding... Any other symptoms?
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Reply #3 - 06/03/09 at 12:12:19
 
Assuming the float bowl is correct, I'm thinking it's a diaphram issue.  Either the tab wasn't lined up right, the big spring was left out (did that twice but caught it before I put it in), or missing spring on the needle
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Reply #4 - 06/03/09 at 12:25:01
 
No other symptoms other than it doesn't backfire now on shutdown.  I made sure I put tab in the right spot and the both springs are in (I'm pretty sure).  It doesn't surge now but it used to a little bit before it was warmed up.
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Reply #5 - 06/03/09 at 12:26:16
 
Yea that spring can get bunched up if you dont fit it on right.
Either that, or you activated the moped setting, I have no idea how to fix, it, My virago is in that setting now, and worse yet the GS500 is in the "dead" setting. Angry
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Reply #6 - 06/03/09 at 12:31:54
 
Yeah, I suppose the spring could be bunched up, I can see how that might happen.
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Reply #7 - 06/03/09 at 12:39:29
 
To test that, take some chop sticks, and remove the air filter and o in through the air box and stick the chopstick in gently into the air intake and lift the slides, if it dont move smoothly, that = bunch up spring.
That way you will know for sure, it cant be disturbed by your yanking the carb top.
BTW the diaphragm can have a rip in it ... yes that is also moped setting ...
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Reply #8 - 06/03/09 at 13:19:57
 
Get an original SSM, blessed by the parts man at the local stealership.
Open to page 432, Moped Exercism.  With 10mm wrench in hand, clang a nearby toolbox and say " Cast thy moped OUT, in the name of Suzuki, Honda, Izusu and Toyota"
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Reply #9 - 06/03/09 at 13:25:49
 
Does the material of the washers matter? I'm having difficulty finding smaller than #4 in stainless or nylon.

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Reply #10 - 06/03/09 at 13:32:42
 
That's a good question.  I would guess that it wouldn't matter as long as the material was gas resistant.  I had problems finding smaller washers at lowe's, HD, and ACE.  I finally found them at a store called Automotive Fasteners.
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Reply #11 - 06/03/09 at 14:56:43
 
I never found any stainless washers smaller than #4, so I went with the #3 with the standard coating, yellow zinc, or something like that?  It looks like the hold-down plate on the needle was coated the same way, so if it'll hold up, the washers should too. Undecided
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Reply #12 - 06/03/09 at 15:03:59
 
So what happens when you install the needle retaining plate upside down with the little nipple up?  Probably nothing.  But isn't there another hole on that plate- an air passage hole of some type? Can't remember right now.  

If not the carb, then maybe the air filter is dirty and the extra gas is not making it run too rich when the main jet kicks in.
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Reply #13 - 06/03/09 at 15:07:30
 
The plate on mine had the 2 holes for the hold down screws, and 2 notches of the same dia.  They line up with 2 holes in the bottom of the slide thingy.  Or at least I hope they do, either way, the bike runs ok. Cheesy
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Reply #14 - 06/03/09 at 16:18:04
 
The notches- that's what I mean.  Can the plate be installed wrong and if so what could effects be?  Are they for vacuum?
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