Car coil


Savage coil


Hmmmm, I really don't know.

I would say it is possible, it looks to me the connectors are a bit different that's about it, but don't rely on my judgment.

I just wanted the look of having a canister coil mounted to the front down tube of the frame, a big Yellow wire going to the plug...

As for the connections......... LOL  I have NONE of the original wiring left... I can make it anything I want on the route'n and connection points...

Crap. I'll just stay with the little under the tank coil....

Thanks for the slap back to reality.... I need it from time to time..

I think I would want to leave the coil up under the fuel tank, if for no other reason to keep it out of the rain. High voltage and rain make a poor combination.

marshall13 wrote on 05/25/09 at 10:25:56:


Well lets see here. Its epoxy filled for high vibration... check !
Its available in 3 ohm and works with induction & CD ignition.... check !
Road stones fly'n up and busting it and leaving me stranded ? That would be one hell of a rock dont you think, with others mounting oil coolers or just fly'n up and knocking me out.... I dont think I need to worry  

Now back to whether the coil will work with the savage box, its a CDI system am I right, what kind of coil does it have now ?

An epoxy filled 3 ohm coil right, 30K or so volt output...

The Flame Thrower is a 3 ohm, 40K volt output....

Please help me out as to why the savage CDI will or will not drive this coil.

The fact that it may get taking out by a rock, rain, or UV light is like say'n an oil cooler may get hit by a meteor, or get eating by termites.

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So now you know what type of bikes I ride and what they are used for ?
I cant get any intelligent help from you thats for sure so please stay out of my thread. This coil is able to run with an inductive and CD type ignitions.......... read all of my post before you speak would ya !

As I said earlier, I ruined 2 aftermarket Crane XR70 high energy ignition system black boxes because I used an Accel Super Coil.  When I called the Crane engineering department, they told me that the Accel Super coil was "too much" for their system.  When I asked them what do they mean by "too much", I was told it had to do with the "saturation rate" of the coil.  I didn't bother to press them further and bought the lesser Accel coil.  It worked fine for years.  Both coils had the same resistance ratings.  Your idea might work efficiently and without damage to the rest of the Savage's solid state electrics, but then again maybe not.  Even if it works fine at first, it may malfunction at a later date.  In my case, both Crane 'black boxes' lasted about a month before failing.  So even if your substitute coil works at first, how can you be sure it will not ruin the Savage electrics in time? Another thing I've seen happen is that substituting components like this can result in the engine appear to be running okay, but it doesn't quite do so at high RPM, or perhaps it is not efficiently burning the gas like the original system did, or perhaps it does not start as well as it used too. Now you have to ask yourself, did my modification cause this to happen or is it something else that has started to go wrong?  Now you have a time consuming diagnosis problem.  Sometimes changing one component of an engineered system can lead to a domino effect and before long you end up redesigning the whole system to accommodate the first thing you changed.  Hot Rodders used to face this problem all the time when building cars from a variety of un-matched parts, before the days of being able to buy matched component systems out of performance catalogs.  Myself, after years of fighting this 'domino effect', I tend to avoid redesigning component systems (especially computerized or solid state systems) unless I really have too.

Yes we do change the engineering on our bikes all the time for a variety of reasons...I put a cone filter on mine even though it will let in more dirt, just because I like to hear the noise.  But carbs and other mechanical change overs are a lot simpler than a complex solid state micro chip wonder, with sensitive and balanced  electrical values.  Just look at what happened to me...2 blown solid state management boxes just because I used a correct resistance coil that had other incompatible electrical values, and yet is widely marketed as compatible with any 'can' coil engine.