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performance exhaust
05/14/09 at 17:55:08

hey, its time to replace my exhaust and i was looking at 5 options. for some frame of reference im eventually getting the performance carb, cam shaft, etc. so im looking for the best performance exhaust.

in what order would you guys place these choices from best to worst:

1- raask drag pipe

2- supertrapp megaphone series

3- jardine slip on

4- some sort of harley muffler

5- leave it stock.

i like the looks of diamond jims set up, but he changes it so darn much it would be hard to keep up with him. i dig the raask and the supertrapp sound bites on youtube, but no perormance notes are mentioned.

any help would be appreciated.

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rigidchop Serious Thumper Offline don't feed the drama llama Posts: 1105 ravenswood wv Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #1 - 05/14/09 at 18:10:35 the only performance exhaust is the supertrapp, its probably the best as well, completely tunable. the others are pretty much for sound. although you may see an increase in performance from them, it probably won't compare to the trapp.
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seviersavage Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 364 Smoky Mountains Tennessee Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #2 - 05/14/09 at 18:17:39 trapp, like Rigid said it's tunable. I have the vm carb and will also get a cam. I just put a trapp on last winter and really like it. Seviersavage
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danroot Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 74 Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #3 - 05/14/09 at 18:37:36 does the supertrapp slip on? would it benefit from a larger header?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #4 - 05/14/09 at 18:48:24 from best to worst: 1- supertrapp megaphone series 2- some sort of harley muffler 3- custom longshot pipe 4- raask drag pipe 5- leave it stock. (you got to be kidding)
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danroot Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 74 Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #5 - 05/14/09 at 18:55:28 so nobody likes the raask? is it purely for sound?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #6 - 05/14/09 at 18:56:25 It's twice the cost of a supertrapp
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danroot Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 74 Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #7 - 05/14/09 at 19:01:32 does the fact that it also replaces the stock header do anything for performance? i recall someone mentioning that a new header would help too.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #8 - 05/14/09 at 19:28:23 With the stock muffler you want lose your low end power.
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rigidchop Serious Thumper Offline don't feed the drama llama Posts: 1105 ravenswood wv Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #9 - 05/14/09 at 19:31:08 i think the rask does come with a larger dia. headpipe. probably not needed unless you have some type of headwork done, cam etc.
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12Bravo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 628 Mid-Missouri Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #10 - 05/14/09 at 20:06:56 danroot wrote on 05/14/09 at 18:37:36: does the supertrapp slip on? would it benefit from a larger header? Yes it slips right on. bike sounds and performs better.
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diamond jim Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1425 North Alabama Gender:	Re: performance exhaust Reply #11 - 05/14/09 at 20:10:58 danroot wrote on 05/14/09 at 18:37:36: ... would it benefit from a larger header? No, a larger diameter header would hurt performance.
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Max_Morley

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Re: performance exhaust
Reply #12 - 05/14/09 at 20:20:41

Original RAASK were a double wall straight pipe with a baffle and packing of sorts. It was noisy for sure and I ended up using it for a header for HD FXD/F mufflers that I got from a HD shop. Worked great for years, then I ended up blowing the center baffler out of the muffler and when I went to change the muffler discovered the header pipe inner tubing had also burned through and that explained the discoloration of the header. I went back to a stock header and the other muffler of the set. The new muffler on the RAASK web site seem to be a head pipe with a variety of muffler? pipe options. I got mine used for 1/2 of what the guy paid for it. Savage Greg has one and is thinking about a muffler on the end as he is tired of the noise, he wife runs a ST on hers and he likes that. I've got the Aluminum ST designed for a Honda XR500 4 stroke on my Savage tug and it seems to work fine, the inlet is actually bigger than the stainless long taper ST for the Savage. To my worn out ears the best sounds comes from a HD FXD muffler with center baffle, HD muffler are made of heaver material and don't ting like some of the thinner stuff does. Max

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Wolf

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Re: performance exhaust
Reply #13 - 05/14/09 at 23:25:39

I have the Raask 60mm Dragpipe and while expensive (shipping gets ya), is kinda exclusive... very well made. When I first installed, the bike definately felt livelier ... and lighter! really showed me that I needed to do the jets! Pretty cool backfires! hehe

Now the Raask has a separate header and you can select 4 muffler types. The Dragpipe and the newer 3 mufflers (quiter - bigger baffles). Pretty cool!

I in mod overkill mode at the moment, will thumpity thump report in a months time... or so

Wolf

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Re: performance exhaust
Reply #14 - 05/15/09 at 05:10:54

It is my understanding that the Raask header has a 1.5" ID on the double wall pipe. That is probably best for a stock or slightly modified engine. My header has a 1.65" ID and is coupled with a R&D muffler made by Cone Engineering (for a company called Evolution Air I think) a few years back which was being tested for use on the big engine harleys (1550cc at the time, so 775cc per cyl). As far as I know the design never made it to production. Anyway, it is a terrific performance muffler; probably a bit on the loud side for many folks but the thing works well in conjunction with the larger header on a modified engine.

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