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Joe C YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 29	Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? 03/30/09 at 17:29:47 My girlfriends bike won't start unless I kick the bike into neutral. Is something wrong or is this standard on this bike?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #1 - 03/30/09 at 17:46:09 You shouldn't kick it out of gear. Apply a little pressure and rock the bike alittle. Kicking it will bend things and then you will have trouble.
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Joe C YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 29	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #2 - 03/30/09 at 17:50:03 Im really not kicking it.. When she stalls the bike she has to put the bike into neutral and then start it. If the bike is in gear and she has the clutch pulled in the bike won't start. The bike will only start in neutral..
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Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start?
Reply #3 - 03/30/09 at 17:51:39

verslagen1 wrote on 03/30/09 at 17:46:09:

You shouldn't kick it out of gear.
Apply a little pressure and rock the bike alittle.
Kicking it will bend things and then you will have trouble.

How true and if you decide to use tools only go with the 3lb sledge otherwise you may mis adjust something then you'll really be up sh!t creek.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #4 - 03/30/09 at 17:52:12 It will start if the kick stand is up. Rock the bike means push it back and forth.
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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #5 - 03/30/09 at 17:53:04 Is the side stand down when this happens? There are some safety interlocks. The clutch, neutral, and kickstand. If the kickstand is down, you can not start the bike even with the clutch pulled in unless it is in neutral.
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Joe C YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 29	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #6 - 03/30/09 at 17:54:24 No, the kickstand it up.
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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #7 - 03/30/09 at 17:57:00 Check the wire going to the kickstand, it may be boogered making it think the stand is down.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #8 - 03/30/09 at 17:59:16 Joe C wrote on 03/30/09 at 17:54:24: No, the kickstand it up. The kick stand spring might be sagging abit. Check the switch too. I wouldn't recommend bypassing it, not with a beginner. Even after 2 years I sometimes make the mistake of not taking it out of gear to start.
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sakara Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline Thumpalicious Posts: 313 Lockport, NY Gender:	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #9 - 03/31/09 at 06:52:31 Second that; I've been riding for 5 or 6 years ish and still occasionally jump the bike at the gas pump when I start it in gear and look like a fool. Haven't dropped it yet, but came close.
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Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start?
Reply #10 - 03/31/09 at 06:59:40

Try adjusting your clutch cable too. kickstand up, clutch in, hit start. I personally always start my bike in Neutral. Don't know why. Habit I guess. There are to many safety features for starting any bike made towards the mid to late 80s and on. I usually disable them. Seriously if someone doesnt know how to start a bike and remember to put the kickstand up before taking off they probably shouldn't be riding Tongue

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SimonTuffGuy Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline i like to thump... ;) Posts: 1159 Central PA Gender:	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #11 - 03/31/09 at 08:41:33 If it had to do with the kickstand switch... I would think that once you put it in gear, the bike would stall too. That's how it works with mine.
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Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start?
Reply #12 - 03/31/09 at 09:24:23

Mortation wrote on 03/31/09 at 06:59:40:

Try adjusting your clutch cable too. kickstand up, clutch in, hit start. I personally always start my bike in Neutral. Don't know why. Habit I guess. There are to many safety features for starting any bike made towards the mid to late 80s and on. I usually disable them. Seriously if someone doesnt know how to start a bike and remember to put the kickstand up before taking off they probably shouldn't be riding Tongue

Expanding on what Mort offered, when in gear/kickstand up, clutch lever pulled in and start button pressed, does the starter motor turn and try to start the bike (clutch too tight and needs adjustment) or is it just slient and nothing at all happens (kickstand safety switch)?

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Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start?
Reply #13 - 03/31/09 at 09:30:33

Mortation wrote on 03/31/09 at 06:59:40:

Try adjusting your clutch cable too. kickstand up, clutch in, hit start. I personally always start my bike in Neutral. Don't know why. Habit I guess. There are to many safety features for starting any bike made towards the mid to late 80s and on. I usually disable them. Seriously if someone doesnt know how to start a bike and remember to put the kickstand up before taking off they probably shouldn't be riding Tongue

I wonder what your legal liability might be, should someone (say, a mechanic) get hurt because you had disabled a safety system?

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franch Senior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 287	Re: Have to kick the bike into neutral to start? Reply #14 - 03/31/09 at 10:42:21 sounds like the clutch cable is way too loose
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