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Has anyone tried knobby tires on the Savage?
01/16/09 at 12:36:54
 
I hope you don't all think I've gone mad(der).  As you may know, I dearly love my Savage and have been commuting since July (until the last two snowy, icy weeks).  I am also interested in trail riding - nothing too extreme, just dirt trails and gravel roads, through the woods, and so on - no climbing up sheer cliffs.  

So, it occurred to me - has anyone ever tried this with their Savage?  I wondered particularly if anyone had tried knobbies on these bikes.

If this is a nutty idea, I know you will let me know. Cool

Best wishes and ride safe,
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Re: Has anyone tried knobby tires on the Savage?
Reply #1 - 01/16/09 at 12:39:45
 
You probably won't find knobbies for a 15" rim.

I've been looking for dual sport and the smallest is 16"
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Reply #2 - 01/16/09 at 14:35:12
 
ditto.  not a nutty idea.  Have even considered lacing up a 16" rim on the rear (I have a spare rear wheel!)
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Reply #3 - 01/16/09 at 17:30:37
 
My project for the winter is to 'supemoto' my 07 out a little. going to put on longer shocks, a high front fender, hand guards and see how it looks.
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Reply #4 - 01/16/09 at 17:50:25
 
A couple of thoughts, for what they are worth:

The Savage/S40 doesn't have an awful lot of ground clearance, so you might want to be cautious on rough terrain.

The "feet forward" riding position makes it more difficult to stand up on the pegs to help absorb bumps. This is characteristic of cruisers. Trouble is, the typically short suspension travel of cruisers makes that ability to stand up more desirable at the same time the seating position makes it more difficult.

It the terrain includes roads or paths with rocks on them, it might be possible for one of those rocks to get into the belt and be carried to the rear pulley, where belt damage might ensue.
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Reply #5 - 01/16/09 at 18:05:18
 
I have taken mine off road. Nothing too severe, but the weight makes it manageable. Again, I don't ride like I used to, and extreme stuff is definitely out. But easing down a trail is not hard on a Savage!
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Reply #6 - 01/16/09 at 18:06:45
 
i have had mine off road, on a logging road and it didn't do too bad. i even have forward controls. i got rid of the belt awhile ago. i rode alot of dirtbikes in my youth (and some streetbikes with dirt tires Shocked) so experience never hurts.
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Reply #7 - 01/16/09 at 19:48:56
 
Back in the '70's I had a '72 Pinto, snazzy special edition red white and blue.  Had wide four spoke wheels, white enamel centers, chrome rims, sporting BR70-13 Bridgestone street tires.  Twin CB whips off the rear corners.  Took it through what is now the Hungry Valley Off Road Recreation Area, across a creek and up a jeep trail climbing a mountain.  Got the strangest looks from the dirt bikers and jeep drivers.  Several miles in I asked one of the bikers if the road went through -- he said no.  YUK!!  Make a u-turn and go on back down.  About 10 years or so ago we were camping around Great Basin Nat. Momument, went for a drive, ended up going down a road marked "high clearance vehicles only" in a '78 Ford LTD.

Just 'cause we haven't got the ground clearance of a dirt bike doesn't mean we can't put on dirt tires and go playing.  All you have to do is make sure you avoid high centering.
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Reply #8 - 01/16/09 at 22:55:37
 
I don't know how off road you want to go, but I've done a little dirt roadin' and the only parts that worried me were deep sand.  A dual sport tire up front might be all I need.

One thing they all told me is watch your belt.  I can pick up rocks.  And it they're big enough will push thru the belt.
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Reply #9 - 01/17/09 at 02:49:44
 
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Reply #10 - 01/17/09 at 03:08:28
 
So this is very encouraging.  We had in mind just dirt trails, gravel roads, fields, and trails in the woods.  We live in the country and there are lots of places like this.  No going off of cliffs and down goat paths on the sides of mountains, which does look like a lot of fun, but is probably unwise given our lack of experience and the ground clearance on the Savage.

I've ridden around in the beanfield in the back, and Thump did fine, but he does slip a little in the grass.  This is why I was thinking about the knobbies.

Can a 16" rim be put on our bikes?

Stimpy - what tire is that?  
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Re: Has anyone tried knobby tires on the Savage?
Reply #11 - 01/17/09 at 05:23:49
 
When I put 12.5" Progressive shocks on the back of mine it jacked it up noticeably, improving ground clearance.
I have seen tires in ad's with a block-type tread, made for vintage bikes, that might do well for dirt roads.
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Reply #12 - 01/17/09 at 05:36:07
 
firetruckredbike wrote on 01/17/09 at 03:08:28:
...I've ridden around in the beanfield in the back, and Thump did fine, but he does slip a little in the grass. ... 
Grass is flat, slick, nothing for a tire to grab.  For grass you either pussyfoot or you get a tire with long spikes.  Sort of like what is on the bottoms of golfing shoes.  (Golfers walk on grass a lot, and their shoes are designed to not slip on grass.)  
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Reply #13 - 01/17/09 at 05:54:03
 
Lancer; when you put on the 12.5" rears; did it force the seat to slant to far forward? I've put spacers on the front of my seat and it made a big difference. Now I'm worried longer shocks will negate that benefit too much.
The extra ground clearance should work great for gravel roads and dirt path now and then. I'm not doing this to my bike to ride in the dirt. I've got a YZ250 for that. But it seems you can do almost anything to a Savage/S40 so I thought I'd give this a try. In my minds eye, it looks as good as a BMW, weighs half as much, cost a third of what a BMW does and there won't be a dozen of them looking exactly the same every square mile.
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Reply #14 - 01/17/09 at 18:26:32
 
mine has 12.5" Intruder shocks and a 2" lift on the front of the seat...

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