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Shutting off......pleaase help
01/04/09 at 19:02:04
 
I am the proud owner of a 2001 with 8500 miles, I'm running a gutted dyna muffler and I rejetted the carb properly (lancer's kit Wink ).
Make no mistakes my little savage runs like a bat out of hell and idles really smooth at around 1200rpm , but If I apply the brake hard while running ( like when you see the traffic light changing from green to yellow) it bogs down and shuts off.
Any ideas (It's been doing this since the time I bought it about a year ago).

Thanks for your help.

TOny.
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Reply #1 - 01/04/09 at 19:08:08
 
you gotta turn in your idle mixture screw. You are definitely idling to low. Used to happen to me. Especially on cold mornings.
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Reply #2 - 01/04/09 at 19:48:04
 
If you don't have access to a tach,  have a shop set it.  

Should be in the 1100 to 1200 rpm range when warmed up.    The engine is a low oil pressure engine (7-10 psig @3000 rpm) so too low on the idle is not too good, even though it sounds cool.
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Reply #3 - 01/05/09 at 09:06:38
 
Pull in clutch   Smiley




Does sound like your idle is just abit low, not uncommon for the rpms to drop 2 or 300 upon a sudden shut off.
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Reply #4 - 01/05/09 at 09:42:29
 
I used to kill mine the same way. Raised the idle & now I can make it stumble a little sometimes. Maybe I need to jack the idle up more? Pretty sure its over 1000RPM, but havent used a tach.
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Reply #5 - 01/05/09 at 09:51:38
 
There is a how to thread for idle mixture screw.
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Reply #7 - 01/05/09 at 11:41:40
 
SavRon wrote on 01/05/09 at 10:07:38:



That is a fuel mixture how to not the idle mixture which is on the left side lol
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Reply #8 - 01/05/09 at 11:49:15
 
odvelasc wrote on 01/05/09 at 11:41:40:
SavRon wrote on 01/05/09 at 10:07:38:



That is a fuel mixture how to not the idle mixture which is on the left side lol

Well if you're gonna use the same terms for both sides you're gonna confuse the newby

Right side, pilot mixture screw (for the Kapows)
Left side, idle speed screw (thumb knob for rpm)
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Reply #9 - 01/05/09 at 12:01:12
 
verslagen1 wrote on 01/05/09 at 11:49:15:
odvelasc wrote on 01/05/09 at 11:41:40:
SavRon wrote on 01/05/09 at 10:07:38:



That is a fuel mixture how to not the idle mixture which is on the left side lol

Well if you're gonna use the same terms for both sides you're gonna confuse the newby

Right side, pilot mixture screw (for the Kapows)
Left side, idle speed screw (thumb knob for rpm)


I have been humbled. thanks!!!
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Reply #10 - 01/05/09 at 14:34:40
 
I drilled and pulled out the brass plug recently and adjusted the idle mix screw and

I suggest you cover the starter and any nooks where the brass shavings will fall.
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Reply #11 - 01/05/09 at 15:01:00
 
Thanks for the replies, I'll try raising the rpm's.

Tony.
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Reply #12 - 01/05/09 at 18:52:50
 
Tony01 wrote on 01/04/09 at 19:02:04:
I am the proud owner of a 2001 with 8500 miles, I'm running a gutted dyna muffler and I rejetted the carb properly (lancer's kit Wink ).
Make no mistakes my little savage runs like a bat out of hell and idles really smooth at around 1200rpm , but If I apply the brake hard while running ( like when you see the traffic light changing from green to yellow) it bogs down and shuts off.
Any ideas (It's been doing this since the time I bought it about a year ago).

Thanks for your help.

TOny.

Did I read this post correctly? Huh
If I was jammin toward a signal that changed suddenly and I jumped the brakes without pulling the clutch in.... I would EXPECT the engine to bog and stall same as any other vehicle that uses a clutch for engagement....
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Reply #13 - 01/05/09 at 20:27:46
 
AzDon wrote on 01/05/09 at 18:52:50:
Tony01 wrote on 01/04/09 at 19:02:04:
I am the proud owner of a 2001 with 8500 miles, I'm running a gutted dyna muffler and I rejetted the carb properly (lancer's kit Wink ).
Make no mistakes my little savage runs like a bat out of hell and idles really smooth at around 1200rpm , but If I apply the brake hard while running ( like when you see the traffic light changing from green to yellow) it bogs down and shuts off.
Any ideas (It's been doing this since the time I bought it about a year ago).

Thanks for your help.

TOny.

Did I read this post correctly? Huh
If I was jammin toward a signal that changed suddenly and I jumped the brakes without pulling the clutch in.... I would EXPECT the engine to bog and stall same as any other vehicle that uses a clutch for engagement....


When I apply the brakes I also pull the clutch in ,but the bike kind of hesitates, bogs down and dies.

Tony.
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Reply #14 - 01/05/09 at 21:24:52
 
But only does this on rapid stop? - could be a float level issue....

on the idle - if you do not have a tach (although you do mention 1200 rpm) a reasonable way to get it fairly close on this pair of mine
- one with a tach one with out - is to watch the head light - if it dims at idle your too low - rev a bit a couple times and let it idle down up the idle a bit until the light stays the same

right/left? depends on where your standing -  port and starboard is the light and the way
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