This post is a mess.  This entire thread is a mess.

I thought I had 100% nonconforming friction disks from Parts N More.  In fact only the single small disk was non-conforming (grossly under print thickness on the fiber part and incorrect on just about every other circular and radial claw dimension as well).

What we do have is a Clymer book error again.  This will be all explained later on by Verslagen.

Originally, I said don't buy disks from Parts n More, now I say be cautious when buying disks from them.  Always measure what you get as they CAN  (and did) send me one (1) incorrect small disk.


Now --- read the thread and watch us slowly fumble over yet another stupid unnecessary Clymer book error (which has since been added to the Known Errors Tech posting).

Oldfeller

Sounds like you are going kevlar for your next clutch.  Tell us if it lasts over twice to three times as long.    

(in about what, 15-20 more years?)

$42 shipped to your door beats $58 (shipped?)

WARNING  WARNING   We were searching for the world's cheapest clutch job.  What we found was a net vendor who uses substituted friction disks to cover a "wide range of bikes", PLATES THAT DO NOT EVEN MEET THE "worn out" SERVICE SPECS FOR USE IN A LS650 SAVAGE.


The incorrectly substituted plates came from:

$42 shipped at Parts N More     !! NON-FUNCTIONAL -- DO NOT ORDER !!

If you make the mistake of ordering disks from Parts n More you will get friction disks that fall completely BELOW the new LS 650 Savage spec thickness range (and below the total worn-out plate service spec range for an LS 650).

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Warning -- the substitution listing that said a SV650 plate set was "same as" the Savage came from this same vendor -- Please check any plates you may have ordered to see if they actually fall inside the Savage spec ranges !!!

single end plate should be 2.92mm-3.08mm new  --  is 2.84mm thick
(wear limit is 2.62mm)

5 ea plates should be 3.45mm-3.55mm new -- is 3.03mm thick
(wear limit is 3.15mm -- these plates came in new below the service wear out limit)

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Who has a real Savage shop manual?  Can you verify these spec and wear limits to make sure the Clymer book has it right?



No wonder folks aren't getting "good service" from some replacement clutch packs !!!  

Have they been measuring the new stuff they have  been getting ???

Justin, you happen to have a spare bare steel friction disk running around to contribute to trying to answer that question?

.42mm undersized per disk x 5 = 2.10mm lost to the total pack height.   Hmmmm ... that won't cover the extra friction disk much less the matching steel disk that would be needed.

I would think "not" ...

Plus I already wrote the nasty gram asking for return authorization.

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 01/09/09 at 15:08:07:


OK SUZUKI FACTORY MANUAL.....
corks are
NO 1.  2.92-3.08mm with a limit of 2.62mm
and No2 are 3.45-3.55 with a limit of 3.15mm

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 01/09/09 at 15:08:07:

OK, whipped out my printed in '86 manual, and it says you got it backwards.
5x plates should be 2.92mm-3.08mm (wear limit is 2.62mm)
1x plate  should be 3.45mm-3.55mm (wear limit is 3.15mm)

This matches up with the plates I got from EBC.
Also matches up with a set from barnett.

Hey Smokin', I don't have to look, I got'em.

The 1st set from barnett... I got last year... somebody was unloading them... I remember something like $35  I thought they were cork, so I bought a kevlar set from EBC.  Darn if they ain't the same color.