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Wide open throttle??
11/01/08 at 09:37:30

As stated before I'm newer to the savage nation(not michael savage). I have a 96 with a new rebuilt carb(lancers magic) cone air filter and Dyna HD muffler. My problem is it seems hesitant at WOT and its hard for me to top out each gear without it hesitating, almost dont even know if Im getting all the "grunt power" Cheesy

out of it. It idles GREAT sounds good and I've noticed a "slight" exhaust leak where I just changed pipes. But this hesitation was there with the factory pipe too with no leaks. Can someone point me in the right direction. I also believe Im running a little rich I'm workin on the correct mixture but where else am I going wrong?? Thanks all!!

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Re: Wide open throttle??
Reply #1 - 11/01/08 at 09:48:00

Lancers the expert, but here goes...
fix the exhaust leak, either use a clamp that seals, aluminum sheet bushing from your favorite beverage, or hi-temp rtv.
test for the correct main jet, max out the rpm's while going up a good hill (70 to 80 mph in 5th) correspondingly slower in other gears on steeper hills. It should take WOT to maintain speed. Now back off from WOT 1/8 turn, does it seem to pick up? yes bigger jet, no smaller jet or just right.

My guess is that you have the white spacer mod done and it's a little too aggressive causing it to hesitate when it hits the main.

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savagespence Junior Member Offline NEEEWBIE!! Posts: 52 Nashville,TN Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #2 - 11/01/08 at 09:51:02 Im going out to attempt that now cross your fingers LOL..
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savagespence Junior Member Offline NEEEWBIE!! Posts: 52 Nashville,TN Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #3 - 11/01/08 at 10:24:51 Ok so it seems that if I back off a little I'll get the ability to gain a little power but not much before hesitation. Do i need to rejet? Thanks...
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Re: Wide open throttle??
Reply #4 - 11/01/08 at 11:36:21

verslagen1 wrote on 11/01/08 at 09:48:00:

Lancers the expert, but here goes...
fix the exhaust leak, either use a clamp that seals, aluminum sheet bushing from your favorite beverage, or hi-temp rtv.
test for the correct main jet, max out the rpm's while going up a good hill (70 to 80 mph in 5th) correspondingly slower in other gears on steeper hills. It should take WOT to maintain speed. Now back off from WOT 1/8 turn, does it seem to pick up? yes bigger jet, no smaller jet or just right.

My guess is that you have the white spacer mod done and it's a little too aggressive causing it to hesitate when it hits the main.

Sorry for hijacking- but I'm so glad you mentioned RTV

Even after buying a new clamp for my muff and shimming it, it still leaks. Luckily I have a full tube of RTV laying around from the valve cover leak!

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28653 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #5 - 11/01/08 at 12:33:18 Maybe one step larger on the main...What do you have now?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #6 - 11/01/08 at 12:35:58 spence... Did you test? Having the right jet you'll gain is a smoother transition and improved mpg. Oversized jets it may run a little easier, but suffer low mpg. Rob... Hijacking is going off subject, you've added your experience
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savagespence Junior Member Offline NEEEWBIE!! Posts: 52 Nashville,TN Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #7 - 11/05/08 at 14:17:01 Ok I'm bringing this back up I've gone out and tested it and tried to adjust the carb but I only got a little pickup while adjusting it and I still cant WOT without it bogging out. Any tips?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #8 - 11/05/08 at 14:23:59 Maybe carb slide sticking
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savagespence Junior Member Offline NEEEWBIE!! Posts: 52 Nashville,TN Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #9 - 11/05/08 at 16:36:51 bill67 wrote on 11/05/08 at 14:23:59: Maybe carb slide sticking It appears to be working fine its really bugging me now I wanna be able to "gun" it and go!! Thanks for the idea though..
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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #10 - 11/05/08 at 17:11:00 So.... what jet size do you have in now????
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sakara Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline Thumpalicious Posts: 313 Lockport, NY Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #11 - 11/06/08 at 06:28:25 Also, try to adjust the thickness on your white spacer mod (if you've done the mod) as it sounds like this is a high rpm issue. Just my $.02
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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #12 - 11/06/08 at 14:48:48 You could also try putting the fuel petcock in PRIme and see if it makes a difference. At wide open throttle engine vacuum is minimum, and engine vacuum is what holds the petcock open. If you have made any modifications to the airbox or the air filter to increase flow, that will also reduce vacuum.
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Re: Wide open throttle??
Reply #13 - 11/07/08 at 00:56:33

sakara wrote on 11/06/08 at 06:28:25:

Also, try to adjust the thickness on your white spacer mod (if you've done the mod) as it sounds like this is a high rpm issue.

Just my $.02

The white spacer should only affect transition from low revs/part throttle to mid revs/mid throttle.
Higher revs and WOT is down to just the main if it's a jetting problem.

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savagespence Junior Member Offline NEEEWBIE!! Posts: 52 Nashville,TN Gender:	Re: Wide open throttle?? Reply #14 - 11/07/08 at 12:07:37 As soon as I get my jets from lancer I'm gonna rejet and go that route.. IM GETTIN FRUSTRATED!
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