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Reply #15 - 08/30/08 at 17:57:44
 
Alright friends here's the update. I took the carb apart piece by piece and did the standard dip of every metal part into the carb cleaner and left the plastics or rubbers alone. put it all back together and the bike starts beautifully. However, If I give it gas, enough to actually get going, it dies instantly. What did I do wrong?

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http://www.geocities.com/foxteka/carb001small.jpg"

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http://www.geocities.com/foxteka/carb009small.jpg"
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Reply #16 - 08/30/08 at 18:41:56
 
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Funny, that's what your bike says when you goose it.
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Reply #17 - 08/30/08 at 19:24:20
 
I laughed but on the inside im crying, any ideas on why its doing that?
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Reply #18 - 08/30/08 at 19:38:08
 
When I tried to look at the pics, it gave me the...
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So, No, I havent a clue.. sorry!
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Reply #19 - 08/30/08 at 19:52:27
 
Pictures should link now. Thanks.
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Reply #20 - 08/30/08 at 20:00:31
 
Nope.  Still unavailable due to maintenance on their server.
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Reply #21 - 08/30/08 at 20:03:32
 
Well, as a guess..I'd think you might have had some build up/blockage in the carb due to sitting; cleaning it out now mackes it run too rich.  I suspect given the un baffled muffler on the bike you purchased, the PO also may have (almost must have) change the main jet and it might now require going back down a 1/2/ size??  Still can't get to the pictures..good luck.  The lesson, no good cleaning goes unpunished Cheesy
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Reply #22 - 08/30/08 at 20:05:18
 
What size jets are in it?
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Reply #23 - 08/31/08 at 00:09:27
 
I remember seeing a 230 on the bigger of the two gets at the top of the carb and a 145 on the jet in the bowl underneath... does that mean anything to anyone?
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Reply #24 - 08/31/08 at 10:08:54
 
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Reply #25 - 08/31/08 at 10:16:55
 
also i looked up OEM parts list and it shows that the two jets that i mentioned earlier are the right numbers. thoughts?

Main Jet 145

Pilot Jet 230

Also I forgot to mention that when I was taking the carb apart the main jet in the bottom wasnt screwed in... it was laying in the sludge at the bottom of the bowl. lovely lovely caramel sludge.
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Reply #26 - 08/31/08 at 10:51:23
 
The pilot jet is not on the top of the carb. It too is accessed through the bowl.
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Reply #27 - 08/31/08 at 11:16:30
 
That 230 pilot jet reference has me confused.  I would expect that to be 45-50.  Are you choking it to start it?  Walk us through the steps to make it "start beautifully."
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Reply #28 - 08/31/08 at 13:14:52
 
The 230 jet was labeled pilot on the page here lebeled #42
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/suzuki-motorcycle-ls650pv-savage...

so to start it i choke it for not more than 2 or 3 seconds, put the choke in and it runs fine. if i give it a little more gas consistantly it dies in the next 10-15 seconds but if i rev it up a good amount it will die right away.
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Reply #29 - 08/31/08 at 14:05:04
 
I'll have to go back and read through this thread again.  I'm losing track of who's who in all the threads I'm following.  I can tell you that #42 in that drawing is not the pilot jet.  #18 is the pilot jet.  With the bowl off, if you look up from the bottom of the bike, the pilot is right in front of the main jet.  You cannot get to it from the top of the carb.  I'll check the manual and other sources.  I think #42 might be the pilot air jet, which is something different.

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