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Re: Terrible Gas Mileage
Reply #15 - 08/30/08 at 17:57:44

Alright friends here's the update. I took the carb apart piece by piece and did the standard dip of every metal part into the carb cleaner and left the plastics or rubbers alone. put it all back together and the bike starts beautifully. However, If I give it gas, enough to actually get going, it dies instantly. What did I do wrong?

Before
http://www.geocities.com/foxteka/carb001small.jpg"

After
http://www.geocities.com/foxteka/carb009small.jpg"

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #16 - 08/30/08 at 18:41:56 Sorry, Service Temporarily Unavailable. Funny, that's what your bike says when you goose it.
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Kulisz YaBB Newbies Offline If it were you, we would never leave Posts: 30 San Antonio, Texas Gender:	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #17 - 08/30/08 at 19:24:20 I laughed but on the inside im crying, any ideas on why its doing that?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #18 - 08/30/08 at 19:38:08 When I tried to look at the pics, it gave me the... Sorry, Service Temporarily Unavailable. So, No, I havent a clue.. sorry!
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Kulisz YaBB Newbies Offline If it were you, we would never leave Posts: 30 San Antonio, Texas Gender:	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #19 - 08/30/08 at 19:52:27 Pictures should link now. Thanks.
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Sandy Koocanusa Serious Thumper Offline Don't blame me. I didn't vote for him. Posts: 1878 Bigfork, MT Gender:	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #20 - 08/30/08 at 20:00:31 Nope. Still unavailable due to maintenance on their server.
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Re: Terrible Gas Mileage
Reply #21 - 08/30/08 at 20:03:32

Well, as a guess..I'd think you might have had some build up/blockage in the carb due to sitting; cleaning it out now mackes it run too rich. I suspect given the un baffled muffler on the bike you purchased, the PO also may have (almost must have) change the main jet and it might now require going back down a 1/2/ size?? Still can't get to the pictures..good luck. The lesson, no good cleaning goes unpunished Cheesy

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Kulisz YaBB Newbies Offline If it were you, we would never leave Posts: 30 San Antonio, Texas Gender:	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #23 - 08/31/08 at 00:09:27 I remember seeing a 230 on the bigger of the two gets at the top of the carb and a 145 on the jet in the bowl underneath... does that mean anything to anyone?
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Kulisz YaBB Newbies Offline If it were you, we would never leave Posts: 30 San Antonio, Texas Gender:	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #24 - 08/31/08 at 10:08:54 After Cleaning http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w151/jkuliszinstall/carb009small.jpg Before Cleaning http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w151/jkuliszinstall/carb001small.jpg
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Re: Terrible Gas Mileage
Reply #25 - 08/31/08 at 10:16:55

also i looked up OEM parts list and it shows that the two jets that i mentioned earlier are the right numbers. thoughts?

Main Jet 145

Pilot Jet 230

Also I forgot to mention that when I was taking the carb apart the main jet in the bottom wasnt screwed in... it was laying in the sludge at the bottom of the bowl. lovely lovely caramel sludge.

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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Terrible Gas Mileage Reply #26 - 08/31/08 at 10:51:23 The pilot jet is not on the top of the carb. It too is accessed through the bowl.
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Re: Terrible Gas Mileage
Reply #28 - 08/31/08 at 13:14:52

The 230 jet was labeled pilot on the page here lebeled #42
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/suzuki-motorcycle-ls650pv-savage...

so to start it i choke it for not more than 2 or 3 seconds, put the choke in and it runs fine. if i give it a little more gas consistantly it dies in the next 10-15 seconds but if i rev it up a good amount it will die right away.

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Re: Terrible Gas Mileage
Reply #29 - 08/31/08 at 14:05:04

I'll have to go back and read through this thread again. I'm losing track of who's who in all the threads I'm following. I can tell you that #42 in that drawing is not the pilot jet. #18 is the pilot jet. With the bowl off, if you look up from the bottom of the bike, the pilot is right in front of the main jet. You cannot get to it from the top of the carb. I'll check the manual and other sources. I think #42 might be the pilot air jet, which is something different.

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