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88pagan Full Member Offline God is just an imaginary friend for adults.. Posts: 237 Norco, California Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #45 - 10/06/08 at 19:52:15 Ya the penny trick worked perfectly. I'm referring to keeping the clutch basket from spinning when taking off the nut that holds it. In the clymers manual page 152, diagram 15 shows the tool in use. I already have it off, just wondering if I can torque it correctly when I reassemble without buying that tool.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #46 - 10/06/08 at 20:07:10 use the same trick, penny goes in the opposite side as before.
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88pagan Full Member Offline God is just an imaginary friend for adults.. Posts: 237 Norco, California Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #47 - 10/06/08 at 21:30:35 Verslagen..are we talking about the same nut? The one that gets you access to the cam chain came off fine with the penny trick. I'm talking about the nut that holds the clutch on..the one that goes in the middle of this pic. That hub won't stop turning without the special tool or a trick right?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #48 - 10/06/08 at 22:01:44 Right the one in the center of that basket you are holding.
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Reply #49 - 10/06/08 at 22:08:31

Verslagen, I don't know how you are using a penny to hold the clutch basket still, because I understand what Pagan is saying. When you try to remove that particular nut, the clutch basket will spin independently of the gears.

What I did pagan was ran two of the spring bolts back in and used a screw driver to lock it in place against my work bench. This is not really the best idea because you can cause damage to the bolts. But it worked for me. If I recall correctly, it doesn't really require that much torque and with the lock washer on it keeps it from backing out.

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88pagan Full Member Offline God is just an imaginary friend for adults.. Posts: 237 Norco, California Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #50 - 10/06/08 at 22:19:28 Alright cool that's what I was thinking. Unfortunately that's exactly how I took it off and broke one of the studs. Looks like it says 36-51 ft#'s on that nut so that will probably work for reinstalling
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #51 - 10/06/08 at 22:37:30 If you didn't pry against it, it shouldn't have broke. So it was broke already and you dodged that bullet.
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Reply #52 - 10/07/08 at 16:13:46

Alright well I guess I need to do this right because I don't want to do this again. Looks like I'll be spending about $150 for new valves and seals...and another $110 for the labor. This sound good or bad to anyone? Verslagen, you're close to me...the shop I was going to take it to is in Anaheim (Q+E Machine). Any other places you know of that may be better and/or cheaper?

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Reply #53 - 10/09/08 at 21:04:47

When splitting the case, Clymers says to use three-bond no.1216 when sealing it and reassembling. I ordered what I thought was the right stuff from bikebandit but the stuff that arrived says Suzuki silicone gasket 1207b sp-3k. Anyone know from experience if this is the right stuff? There are only two products on the site that look correct and neither is called three-bond. Thanks folks

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #54 - 10/10/08 at 07:57:57 I think someone dropped that Penny & had some trouble. I diodnt like the idea & used a folded peice of leather. Worked great, no chance of dropping it & having it slip into the guts somewhere.
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kennycreed Senior Member Alliance Member Offline Posts: 348 Island Of Lewis SCOTLAND Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #55 - 10/10/08 at 08:21:16 to remove the clutch basket nut I used a black and decker 12volt impact driver(runs of battery with crock clips or cig lighter) with a big socket on it. You can stop the basket turning with just your hand on top of it as the driver delivers all the tork round the nut same for nut when renewing cam chain,,cheers
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Reply #56 - 10/15/08 at 13:58:19

Well, finally got a little time today to split the case. It went real smooth so far. Hopefully it goes back together just as smooth. The head is at the shop getting new valves and seals. Thanks Verslagen and T Mack for telling me to split the case. Here's a pic that gives you an idea of what was left after I thought I flushed it pretty well. Anyone else going through this ordeal may want to go the distance and make sure it's perfect before reassembly.

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steely Senior Member Offline Posts: 325 Tulsa, Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Anyone have any good news for me?? Reply #57 - 10/15/08 at 15:15:38 Holy crap! That stuff would not have been good floating around the inside of the case!
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Reply #58 - 10/16/08 at 18:18:25

When I did the cam chain I used a 1/2" impact to bust that nut out & used it to run it up, too. Then I torqued it, locking gears up using a belt, because I am not comfortable using a penny atwixt the gears.

There IS a hard coating you could have done in the cylinder. I know someone here has done it & likes it.

There are inexpensive compressors avail;ab'e. & a 1/2" impact can be had for cheap. Even a small tank on a 100 psi compressor would be okay, since all the bike needs is a little dose of powwer here & there to make the wrenching go easier. A quick Pop on the rear axle & its loose or tight, the clutch basket didint take 3 seconds of TRigger Time on the impact. Pawn shops sometimes have little compressors someone used for a big drywall project, then sold.

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