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Homemade panniers - material worries
07/14/08 at 08:37:17

I'm considering making some ghetto panniers for the bike to go with the ghetto luggagerack/trunk that I ripped off my scooter and installed.

What materials should I look out for? I've read a little about nylon bags melting, etc. Does the savage get hot enough to melt nylon bags if I have them strapped together and thrown over. I'll most likely make some sort of bracket for bags like this (probably ones out of the tech section).

To avoid having to make brackets, I've thought about attaching some hard boxes to the side instead of throwover bags (though those will be less portable off the bike). Is there a danger of plastic melting or metal getting really hot? What seems like a good material for this endeavor?

And to ease worried minds, patience has paid off, and my aunt-in-law might have found my wife and I some free helmets - so ignore the dangers in my old post.

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Re: Homemade panniers - material worries
Reply #1 - 07/14/08 at 08:44:06

Any part of the muffler and header pipe get plenty hot to melt nylon.

My stock muffler had discolored at the rear of it, so that's hot hot to discolor chrome....

As for helmets, you know the drill,.... make sure they fit snug. With it on your head, take your finger and thump on it all over to listen for changes in the sound to check for soft spots. A helmet with soft spots is better than no helmet but not by much.....

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Reply #2 - 07/14/08 at 08:47:53

Nylon will work so long as you keep it away from the exhaust. Leather will last longer and hold its shape better.

Good for you on the helmets. That's a step in the right direction. But thats only one of many that you have to take.

I'll be blunt. You are a brand new rider. You have no health insurance. Just adding used a used helmet does not eliminate the danger. Don't make stupid decisions that rely on luck. You or your wife can end up real dead, real quick.

Park the bike until you have the funds lined up to be responsible. Take the bus. Ride a bicycle. Walk. Just don't ride the bike......

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Reply #3 - 07/14/08 at 08:57:31

A backpack will easily sling onto the left side, no muffler there. A bungee from the loop handle at the top of the pack to the helmet lock & flipped around to not load the swing arm of the lock, with a D-Ring sewn on the lower front corner so it will tie to the shock mount & you are in Bidniss. Mine has straps that can be adjusted to pull it flat to whatever load is in it. Ohh, Cut a piece of 1/8th ply or scrounge a piece of good plastic to reinforce the back & keep it out of the wheel, thats a must do.
Once the left side is on, a pack can be slung onto the right side, but its not near as easy. The gym bag, reinforced & strapped down is the easiest. The flaps with velcro are redundant. A bungee with the cloth covered elastic & the thin metal hooks that can be slightly straightened will hook under the fender braces & one end of the elastic slipped down out of the coil, pulled up & tied back to itself. I've been using one bungee for the last few months & its holding up well, no apparent damage done to the bike. Just find a bag about the width of the seat , mine sticks out over the tail light. You could use contact cement to glue in some light plywood & another piece underneath. If thats not stiff enough, glue a piece of something heavier or another piece of ply, it will eventually quit flexing.Ohh, yea, I have D-rings on each side at the bottom & a piece of parachute cord running under the seat. Its not real easy, but the cord Will fish thru. I ran a piece of piano wire thru & hooked the parachute cord & dragged it thru, kicking & screaming. My bags are super cheap & have held up for almost 3 years & been used to haul a good lot of stuff. Good luck on the Lo Buck way.

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Reply #5 - 07/14/08 at 11:18:15

PANNIERS - holy cow I about fell out. I hardly hear anyone using that term in the 21st century except me and my 18th century group!

So, here are REALLY panniers in action under my gown.

And here they are without the over dress. The reason I'm showing them is this - you can MAKE them using cane and fabric and put them on your bike. Cost to make $28

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j Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 71 Gender:	Re: Homemade panniers - material worries Reply #6 - 07/14/08 at 12:33:17 that's hysterical
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PerrydaSavage Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Riding "The Rock"! Posts: 3522 Republic of Newfoundland Gender:	Re: Homemade panniers - material worries Reply #7 - 07/14/08 at 13:09:49 LOL!! That is pretty cute! BTW Josh ... Army surplus ammo cans make EXCELLENT "ghetto" panniers ... Ride Safe!
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28649 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Homemade panniers - material worries Reply #8 - 07/14/08 at 13:31:58 So that's where that came from! You could definately fit a couple of helmets in there, or groceries, maybe a jacket and gloves... Very nice.
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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Homemade panniers - material worries Reply #9 - 07/14/08 at 14:52:28 I always wonder how and why 18th century ladies in period movies were always able to have whatever they needed when they needed it even out in the middle of nowhere.
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Reply #10 - 07/15/08 at 12:44:12

Yonuh Adisi FSO wrote on 07/14/08 at 14:52:28:

I always wonder how and why 18th century ladies in period movies were always able to have whatever they needed when they needed it even out in the middle of nowhere.

There is a pocket slit in the skirt of the dress that allows access to the pocket itself. You can see in the second photo the opening in the pocket. And YES indeed those things are seriously big carriers.

In my panniers I personally have carried my 18th century flintlock pistol, a fan, handkerchief, wallet, lipstick, cell phone, knife, sunscreen, blister bandaids, a bottle of water, a granola bar, a book, a few 60 cal lead bullets for show and tell, my gun cleaning kit, a comb, extra hairpins, eyedrops, and a spare garter....in ONE side pocket and it was NOT full!

A very good visual of this pannier-pocket use is in the movie "Last of the Mohicans" with whatshisface, oh yeah, Daniel Day Lewis. The lady Cora picks a pistol up off a dead guy and stashes it in her volumous pocket.

See, we learn all kinds of things on the Suzuki Savage forum! Grin

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Reply #12 - 07/15/08 at 14:03:08

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 07/14/08 at 08:44:06:

Any part of the muffler and header pipe get plenty hot to melt nylon.

My stock muffler had discolored at the rear of it, so that's hot hot to discolor chrome....
take your finger and thump on it all over to listen for changes in the sound to check for soft spots. A helmet with soft spots is better than no helmet but not by much.....

sounds like your buying a melon... not something to protect your melon

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