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04/10/08 at 05:21:13

So I was riding to work this morning and everything seemed fine. I hit a patch of fog and the bike just died on me. I got it started again and headed down the road. I made it about 1 mile or so and it did it again. Felt like it was starved for fuel so I turned it to PI.... nothing! Noticed the fuel line had a slight kink in it just above the in-line fuel filter I installed. I pulled the hose off and cut a little section, put it back on and NOTHING..... I sat there for twenty or so trying to turn it over and now the battery is on the way out.

ANY THOUGHTS! I have to get it drivable to get home. otherwise its a 17 mile hump to the Home Base!

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mornhm - FSO Serious Thumper Offline HMMM Posts: 1105 Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #1 - 04/10/08 at 05:26:05 Keep things simple. Before you drain the battery further, make sure you are getting gas into the carb. When you are sure the carb is full, then try it again. If it doesn't turn, you'll either have to get a jump or new battery. Good luck.
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #2 - 04/10/08 at 05:26:46 If you open the drain screw do you have gas in the bowl? Check the wires going to the coil
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #3 - 04/10/08 at 06:23:17 Disconect the hose from the tank to the in line filter and put it on prime, see if you get fuel (yeah, hold the line out a bit)> Always possible the filter is clogged or (dare I say it) in backwards?)
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Chopped Senior Member Offline Hurts Like hell when you shoot yourself! Posts: 499 Stafford, VA Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #4 - 04/10/08 at 07:10:10 Backwards..... I may be a Marine, but I am not retarded! It ran all day yesturday with it on. I ran on my reserves for about 10 miles or so, filled up... First time I filled up since I put the filter on. I am just thinking its clogged! IN SHALLALLAH!!!
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Reply #5 - 04/10/08 at 08:29:45

Why do you think the filter is clogged? If you are in the service you should understand the KISS principal, and checklists. Prove to yourself whether the filter is clogged. Also don't discount double checking something you're sure is right. You wouldn't be the first competent person to do something stupid.

Do you have gas in the carb? This is probably the easiest thing to verify. That's why I put it first earlier. The methods are even listed in the replies above.

Are you getting gas through the filter? (on prime it should be if you pull the line)

Do you have enough voltage to turn the engine over at speed? Again a very easy thing to check, but since you are potentially stranded, remember you don't need to check this until you are sure you have fuel.

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Max_Morley Serious Thumper Offline LT650 Luxury Touring & sidecar rig Posts: 1490 Moses Lake. WA Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #6 - 04/10/08 at 08:45:41 I believe either the carburetor ices up or the air filter absorbs moisture as there has been this complaint on Savages since 98 when I got mine. Never and explanation or solution has been offered in my recollection. Max
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #7 - 04/10/08 at 08:59:56 You just filled up... bad gas? After a couple of min's trying to start, I would try push starting to preserve the battery (advise may be late but better than never). Push starting also has the bene of coaxing something to start that's on the edge. From the other posts, I'd check for flooding. Pull sparky.
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Reply #8 - 04/10/08 at 09:11:41

Well after getting a ride out to the bike, I decided to check and see if its getting fuel. Pulled the hose off inbetween the carb and filter.... no gas coming out.... pulled the hose off of filter... and what do you know... GAS! Took the filter off, turned right over, drove back to work! BAD FILTER BAD!

One of my fellow riders said it could be the tank coating that started to flake away. The filter in the tank allows the particles to go right through, but the better filter I put in did not. NO FLOW NO GAS!

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Reply #9 - 04/10/08 at 09:59:42

Filter went south after the fill up. Hmmm ........

First, I take it your filter isn't air locked....I would think not since it was running before the fill up......

Next, If the gas station is one you trust, then I would think the filter has been slowly clogging and it finally hit the point where it wouldn't pass fuel.

I didn't see what year your bike was. Is the inside of your tank rusted? As for a coating on the inside..... did Suzuki do that???? My '01 looks like bare metal.....

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Reply #10 - 04/10/08 at 10:34:52

I just put the filter on this weekend, so the slowly clogging option is out the window. I only put about 40 miles on it when it went south.

The bike is a 2000. I would expect the manufacturer to coat the tank. It keeps the Gas from eating away at the metal. The coating is either clear or has a very light tone to it. It should apear to be bare metal when looking at it, exspecailly through gas. Just my thoughts on the subject.

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #11 - 04/10/08 at 11:06:12 Are you folks in a seasonal change from winter gas to summer gas or anything of that sort? was your filter a see through model?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #12 - 04/10/08 at 11:28:31 And some filters are meant for pressurized systems. It was reccomended to go to a lawn mower shop for filters.
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Chopped Senior Member Offline Hurts Like hell when you shoot yourself! Posts: 499 Stafford, VA Gender:	Re: Stranded Reply #13 - 04/10/08 at 11:55:21 The filter was a stainless steal one. I talked to the guys at the autoparts store and they said it should work just fine. I used the hose clamps to prevent any air from getting in and messing witht the vacume needed by the carburator. I am not sure about the GAS question....
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Stranded Reply #14 - 04/10/08 at 14:24:43 LOok, the guy said, "Went thru the fog & it DIED" You guys don't read? It's OBViously the fog, you dolts! These people NEVER saw Twilight Zone? Sometimes I wonder why I even bother....
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