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Reply #15 - 04/09/08 at 14:49:02
 
The Dying might come from the vacuum petcock not working well. If it runs un Pri then that could be the problem unless you don't have anough gass in the tank. Make sure oil level is in the middle or slightly above in the sight glass with the bike upright on level surface(Check this by putting bike in 1st gear so it will not roll, get on right side on knee while holding bike upright with right hand and handbrake applied)
Is vibration at speed (Tire imbalance) or also when you just rev it while standing still?
Noise? Checked your valve clearance lately?
Also do not shift into First unless almost to a stop, like  below 3mph.
Checked the timing gear tentioner?
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Reply #16 - 04/09/08 at 15:07:03
 
In my experience with my Savage, there should not be much vibration at all when it is right.  I do not know what they do for a MOT inspection, but tire air pressure is an easy and good first check, then the 4 long bolts that clamp the engine in the frame need to be checked along with the 3 in the head stay under the gas tank. If any are incorrectly torqued it will allow too much vibration. An out of round or out of balance tire will cause bar and front end vibration.  Let us know if you find any of the above as a problem then we will continue the list. Max
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Re: Am I killing my bike or am I being paraniod?
Reply #17 - 04/09/08 at 16:02:58
 
Could be a  loose spoke or two in the front wheel, just take a small piece of wood and tap each spoke. Listen for a twange, if you get a dull clunk you have a loose spoke.
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Reply #18 - 04/09/08 at 16:11:15
 
Other thoughts, besides of course, Welcome.  What was your previous ride?  The Savage/ LS40 is NOT for the sports bike headset.  This is a lazy boy, slow easy shifts up through the range at about 10 mph intervals. if you are doing a lot of engine braking by downshifting, don't.  On sport bikes, engine braking is part of the fun; but the Savage will get confused.  Vibration is a part of one cylinder bikes, so indeed see if it happens throughout the throttle range and then when moving..keep us informed and good luck, by the way how many miles on the beastie? Wink
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Reply #19 - 04/09/08 at 17:19:21
 
I agree with Max But when you check the engine mount bolts back them out first. They feel tight but the locktite is stopping you from getting the correct feel. Back them out one at a time clean use fresh locktite and retorque to spec. I have also seen a vibration from the exhaust.
loosen the bolt at the frame the clamp at the headpipe and the engine flange. move the head pipe arround with your hands then retorque starting at the engine and working down the system to the frame mount. Your just trying to realine the exhaust system. And yes they do have some vibration one cylinder engines come with that option at no ex. charge. The more you ride it the more you get the feel.You will find many concerns are normal.(The key word was many)
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Reply #20 - 04/09/08 at 20:23:41
 
I look at is as having one of these with wheels...



The vibrating belt, not that handsome woman.

I've lost five pounds already! Wink
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Reply #21 - 04/09/08 at 20:52:24
 
jkhulon73 wrote on 04/09/08 at 20:23:41:
I look at is as having one of these with wheels...

http://www.starling-fitness.com/wp-content/uploads/mueller-exerciser-belt-193...

The vibrating belt, not that handsome woman.

I've lost five pounds already! Wink


Well,you said you wanted to lose a few pounds.... Maybe the Savage is just accomodating your wish Wink
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Reply #22 - 04/09/08 at 21:16:14
 
I'm wondering if you have a owners manual! Do you and did you read over it good ?
But it shouldnt "normally" die or choke down unless youre out of gas.......right guys??

And are there any problems with wrong grade of gas? Undecided That I'm not sure about!

Hopefully it's something simple Smiley
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Reply #23 - 04/09/08 at 22:45:34
 
The problem with dying has dissapeared after cleaning carb and fuel lines and filters but thank you for your suggestions for this. I havent read the owners manual for two reasons, 1 the manual I was given with the bike is for older models and i have already identified many differences between the two and I am SOOOOOOOOOOO not technical minded so wouldnt undersatnd what I was reading.
The bike I had before this was a Honda CM125 so im not into sports bikes but she was quite an old bike and had a lot of clowns for owners that messed with bits that in my opinion shouldnt have been touched unless you had a degree. Every one has given good suggestions which I will get someone who understands to check for me and I will keep you up dated. It could well be that I am looking too hard for problems and ultimatly finding them.  Kiss
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Reply #24 - 04/09/08 at 23:18:41
 
from the guys on NPR's car talk:

"By "lugging," we mean that the engine is struggling to accelerate. How would you know it's struggling? Because when you step on the gas to accelerate, it doesn't go faster. It might bog down, it might buck, it might lurch. And you might get noises from the engine, like pinging or knocking. If any of those things are happening, you're going too slowly to be in fifth gear, and you need to downshift."

So, if your vibration is really intense when you shift up and smoothes out when you roll on the throttle, it might be because you're shifting too early. for example, if your engine speed drops below your idle speed when you shift up, you're almost definitely lugging the engine. I'm not sure if thats the problem though.
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Reply #25 - 04/13/08 at 00:38:45
 
Hello,
Just thought i would update you all on the latest saga.
Being a very untechnical person I didnt have a clue where to start looking for the problem or the oil or the right pressure in the tyres.
Asked my partner to go save the day and look for me.
He moaned bitterly saying there was nothing wrong with the bike and it was in my head, but i managed to nag enough for him to go and check for me muttering that the oil and everything was okay as he went through the door.
15 minutes later he was back looking rather sheepish, the oil was so low that when refilled she managed to swallow the best part of 4 liters (and a new filter) and the frount tyre only had 11 PSI in it and the back only had 20 PSI which apparentlly wasnt enough.
I havent taken her out since her top yet so dont know if this has solved the problem but I have a strong feeling that I wont be having problems any more.
Will let you all Know.
Thanks for the info everyone with out it i wouldnt have known what to nag him to check.
I know i appear a little dizzy but me and technical stuff dont mix. Grin
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Reply #26 - 04/13/08 at 01:10:33
 
mentaka wrote on 04/13/08 at 00:38:45:
...she managed to swallow the best part of 4 liters... 


4 litres would be far too much. She only needs 2 litres when you do an oil and filter change.

If he has put in 4 litres you will need to drain some out. Use the sight glass (bottom of engine on right side) to check the level.

There is a good article in the tech section - http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1099572561


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Reply #27 - 04/13/08 at 03:55:49
 
  Mentaka you don't appear dizzy to me at all I have three daughters. Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - 04/13/08 at 05:51:01
 
Whoa,do what PhilM said,drain out about 2 litres.When you check the oil the bike has to be straight up,and down.NOT on the sidestand.If you run it like that you will have a serious mess or worse.
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Reply #29 - 04/13/08 at 23:07:47
 
The manual says that she will take more than 2 litres, so why not fill her up to the max?
I dont mean to question your knowledge but I dont understand.
What would happen if I ran her with too much oil in? Shocked
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