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All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lean
03/30/08 at 16:21:34

Been messing with the suppertrap - added a little space under the base of the stack via little stainless washers

By the way is there any place the grey anti-sieze grease wont migrate to - dang stuff even jumped off the allen bolts onto my glasses and onto all 10 fingers some how

Anyway it's a good bit louder - and pretty lean - had to add almost a full turn out on the mixture to settle it down - time to put on the gear and go run it hard - I expect to feel some mid range lean surge - if so time to grind down the space a bit more - here we go

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Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea
Reply #1 - 03/30/08 at 20:24:41

Well ran the guts out of it - first time since I swaped the jardine for the suppertrap. So the 'trap w/8 plates plus .055 washers under the base plate. Lower end of rpm range is far better upper end is less than the jardine w/rattle (something inside the jardine was rattle'n like crazy) - didn't find the lean surge I expected but didn't have the upper rpm range punch either. Bike likes 80mph ok - but I sure don't on these dang IRC tires, hope they wear out soon - ok the washers didn't increase the exhaust flow enough - try it tomorrow without any plates or cap at all - let's see what it does full open

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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #2 - 03/30/08 at 21:25:04 i'm in the process of the same thing. i need the top end... but maybe not as i really think about it....opps sluggo thinks, time for everybody to go run and hide.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #3 - 03/30/08 at 21:46:15 sluggo wrote on 03/30/08 at 21:25:04: ....opps sluggo thinks, time for everybody to go run and hide. Don't worry every one, I'll handle this... Sluggo, can I see you over here by the dumpster.... Got a lite?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #4 - 03/30/08 at 22:16:22 You gota hopped up cam in that thing yet? You know, some spacers between disks would sure open that thing up & the price of washers is a lot less than disks.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #5 - 03/30/08 at 22:52:54 Whohaha .005 or .010 washers between the disks would work out to.
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Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea
Reply #6 - 03/31/08 at 08:22:04

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/30/08 at 22:16:22:

You gota hopped up cam in that thing yet?

You know, some spacers between disks would sure open that thing up & the price of washers is a lot less than disks.

cam - not yet - h3ll you know me - the amalII carb is still in the box - got to age these things you know Roll Eyes

seems to me just leave'n the cap off the suppertrap gins up the most top end - but hurts the bottom end - something in the middle is needed - like 14 or 20 plates - going to take it for hard run in bit w/out the cap at all Cheesy

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Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea
Reply #7 - 03/31/08 at 08:40:21

oh by the way - dam loud without the cap at all - and this grey antisezzzzzzzze turns to white chalk stuff on the stainless bolts 1600f my arse - guess they didn't say it was still grease above 400f just that the bolts won't sezzzzze up - and lean i guess might be too lean for this pilot and main jet we'll see

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #8 - 03/31/08 at 09:05:35 quick trip around the block says: 1) sound level - uncorked HD ain't got nothing on a ls650 with a suppertrap sans end plate 2) pretty lean at idle - can't tell much about the mid range - need to put on some gear first 3) honest officer the end plate just blew off some how
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #9 - 03/31/08 at 09:15:24 whoaaaa - the head is getting real hot - ok it has a 152.5 now - think I'll drop in a 157.5 and try it again - might pull the white spacer out completely if it's still this hot on a trip around the block
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #10 - 03/31/08 at 10:18:07 ok the 157.5 is in - the only problem was the next door - fellow asked to hold it down - why? it;s noon you know - pointed out he's been working nights and owns a lot of guns - ok got it - time for a lunch ride
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #11 - 03/31/08 at 11:52:52 157.5 is too big - the last 1/8 throttle or so doesn't do anything except slow down a little - oh well - in goes the 155 - man is it ever loud - huh what'd you say - I said 2 pounds of crawfish please (tis the season!)
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #12 - 03/31/08 at 12:34:16 On 2nd thought - how about sans the airbox door - that should max the air flow through the slide in filter - that might be close to the same breathing as yours sluggo
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Reply #13 - 03/31/08 at 13:34:18

now we gots mid range surge without the airbox door and still flat at the end of the throttle - guess the stock time'n, intake, valves, cam, basic head flow or what ever is maxed out @ 155 mainjet - let the bike cool off and stuff in a 155, replace the air box door and have at it again

after I get done with this exercise it should be interesting to see how many disks it takes to roughly equal no end cap

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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: All this carb talk bet the '02 is going to lea Reply #14 - 03/31/08 at 13:56:54 i'm waiting. got some disks at the ready. and some proper hex wrenches for the job.
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