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Onederer

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Whale
03/11/08 at 20:23:00

I just got the front wheel done, and took it for a short ride. The swap was mostly straight foward. Took a little off the spacers, had the O.D. of the rotor turned down, and spaced the caliper 5.5mm. I'll wait a week or so till I start on the rear, and it's looking like I'm gonna do a chain conversion, just to make the swap a little easier, unless once I get started, I find adapting the pulley won't be too involved.

A couple days earlier, I moved the voltage regulator to the muffler bracket. I'm thinking the reg being under the seat was causeing it to overheat and letting the battery overcharge and dry out. Only had to lenghten two wires. The other yellow wires were easily re-routed. I did'nt cut any wires, just unpluged them from the factory conector, added some extra length, crimped on some factory style terminals, and pluged everything back in. There was some discoloring on the fender under the reg, that seems to be from heat(yellowing of the finish).

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #1 - 03/11/08 at 21:13:45 good job! - the fender looks full what size is the front - fills it like a 110/90-19
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jk Ex Member	Re: Whale Reply #2 - 03/12/08 at 07:24:14 Outstanding! Looks great!
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28833 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #3 - 03/12/08 at 07:57:03 I'm green with envy What did you do with the disk? I didn't think it would fit in the savage caliper.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #4 - 03/12/08 at 08:16:13 Very nice!
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Onederer

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Re: Whale
Reply #5 - 03/12/08 at 08:52:14

The tire is a 100/90, but I thought the origional tire filled the fender more. The disc is a GS solid rotor. I just had the O.D. turned down to match the O.D. of the Savage rotor. The Savage has a min thickness of 4mm and the GS is 4.5. My pads had just a little wear, but the thicker GS rotor fit in real easy, and I don't think new pads will cause any problems.If anyone was concerned about it, they could just have the rotor thickness machined down to that of the factory rotor, there is plenty of meat. I used the GS rotor because it has a lot of offset, which after I got the axle spacers rite, only required the caliper to be spaced in 5.5mm. This really is a easy thing to do, just took me a lot of test fits with the axle spacers because I had nothing to go by. I think anyone that can remove and replace the wheel should be able to do this. My cost was less the $100 for everything involed, but I was already running a tubless tire on front, so if someone bought a new tire at the same time, cost should be $200 or less. One thing that is really important, is if anyone decides to have the wheel powder coated, to not have the O.D. of the wheel hub where the rotor goes, powdered, otherwise the rotor won't go on. I'm not completely sure how much I took off of the axle spacers, because I got busy trying to fit it, any lost track of the measurments. I scribbled some things down, but I don't think they're correct. BTW, there was'tn any modifications to the bearings, they are allready the rite size, ditto for the rear wheel I'll be using.

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PerrydaSavage Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Riding "The Rock"! Posts: 3522 Republic of Newfoundland Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #6 - 03/12/08 at 08:58:17 Absolutely outstanding! Love the look!
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28833 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #7 - 03/12/08 at 09:28:45 I got a wheel set from a GS650 GL. Front and rear disks incl'd I have the calipers for both as well, and rear master. Just no time to mess with it. :'( I thought the disk was about twice as thick as the savage, but now I'll have to measure it. I hope it was an optical illusion. Or you got a skinny disk off of what GS?
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steely Senior Member Offline Posts: 325 Tulsa, Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #8 - 03/12/08 at 19:03:16 Dammit, now you have me thinking about how I can fit the mags off of my 850 onto the 650. If I didn't have plans to bob it (the 650), I would have the wheels off of both tomorrow evening. That looks outstanding, I like it very much.
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Onederer Ex Member	Re: Whale Reply #9 - 03/12/08 at 19:04:58 The disc I used came off a 450GS. I have some from a 550?, but they have the cooling slots, and after being machined, some of the slots would've been cut into. There seems to be quite a few GS wheels and parts that will interchange. I just used these wheels because I won't have to mod the rear brake in any way.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28833 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #10 - 03/13/08 at 17:31:02 for those interested http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-WHEEL-BRAKE-DISK-GS450-SUZUKI-GS-450-TWI...
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rigidchop Serious Thumper Offline don't feed the drama llama Posts: 1105 ravenswood wv Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #11 - 03/15/08 at 07:22:20 that looks really good. could you post a side shot of the whole bike? what was the weight difference between spoked and cast wheels?
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Onederer

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Re: Whale
Reply #12 - 03/15/08 at 09:14:51

rigidchop wrote on 03/15/08 at 07:22:20:

that looks really good. could you post a side shot of the whole bike? what was the weight difference between spoked and cast wheels?

Thanks. I'll post a whole side pic of the bike when I get the rear done.Kinda like a grand unveiling. I think the weight is close to same, but the mass is more centalized on the cast wheel. I only guessed weight difference on wheels by holding them without rotor, and tire on each, and both felt close. The difference is the tube and rotors. The GS rotor I used weighs more than the standard Savage, but the Savage rotor and tube combined more than make up for the difference. I used a bungie cord to hang these from, then measured the distance to the floor, crude, but it showed the Savage rotor and tube combined, weigh 4" more Roll Eyes

. Loosing the tube helps centralize the mass, and should allow for an acceleration increase. I did'nt have an accurate scale, so it would be interesting to really know the wieght difference. If the whole set up is lighter, then the whole suspension should also work better.

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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: Whale Reply #13 - 03/15/08 at 10:56:06 imho mags on a motorcycle are just wrong. mags along with windshields belong on a cage. but i've always said. 'whatever floats your boat", if it works for you then hey go for it.
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Onederer

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Re: Whale
Reply #14 - 03/15/08 at 11:23:21

sluggo wrote on 03/15/08 at 10:56:06:

imho mags on a motorcycle are just wrong. mags along with windshields belong on a cage. Cheesy

but i've always said. 'whatever floats your boat", if it works for you then hey go for it.

Wish there were "mags", then they would be even lighter, but they're just cast aluminum. I like the nice color flames mags make when they're on fire, and how there is nothing anyone can do to put them out, just watch. I wonder how many VW Beetle's have actually had a leaking carb that caused those lovely mag cases to show their tru colors?

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