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uphill troubles
02/27/08 at 15:20:31

The road that my school's main entrance is off of is a long uphill climb and 75% of the time I get stuck at the light waiting for a left turn. It seems like the bike always wants to stall out, but so far I've been sweating my nuts off and keeping the rpm high as to prevent that.

The bike is running lean right now.

Is this from a float issue? Will it be fine once I fatten the mix up?

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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #1 - 02/27/08 at 16:47:41 You might want to increase the idle a bit, too many people want to hear each thump. .it's supposed to be at around 1000 rpm if memory serves.
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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #2 - 02/27/08 at 18:48:46 Yep, try upping the idle. Without a tach, finding 1000 to 1200 is a bit hard. Maybe you can find a shop to throw a tach on for you ....... or maybe find a school that might do it for you.
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Bobbert Serious Thumper Offline CHOP IT Posts: 836 Los Angeles, CA Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #3 - 02/27/08 at 23:18:49 Its up pretty high, Im still getting weird stalls
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #4 - 02/28/08 at 05:08:55 Has anyone listenend recently to the sound files for the different systems..maybee someone with a bike and tach and compare and find one thats at the correct rpm as a always available auditory guide?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #5 - 02/28/08 at 07:20:10 1000 rpm / 60 = 17 rps 2 rev's per exhaust note ~8 putts per second. A little faster than I can count.
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6056 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #6 - 02/28/08 at 07:36:29 keep mine at 1100 , 1000 sounds better but stalls out some times,1200 sounds too fast..best to set after long ride when thourghly warmed up..
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #7 - 02/28/08 at 07:40:38 Where are you stalling? stock muffler? stock carb? state of battery charge? electrical conncetions tight?
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T Mack 1 - FSO

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Re: uphill troubles
Reply #8 - 02/28/08 at 08:45:33

Trippah wrote on 02/28/08 at 05:08:55:

Has anyone listenend recently to the sound files for the different systems..maybee someone with a bike and tach and compare and find one thats at the correct rpm as a always available auditory guide?

Ok, Below is what I think is slow & fast as best as I can tell from what my bike sounds like with my MMB tach. set to ~1100 rpm

It should be noted that the sound may vary depending on your internet connection speed. Where I'm at now, we have a super fast connection. If you have a slow Dial-up connection, find someone with a faster connection or go to your local library and see what they have.

From "YouTube":

Slow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSfnEqnXT_Y

Slow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXzlgvs11_Y

A little slow (EDIT: 1120 rpm, per fancy software check by Moofed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z3gFY8NXVY&NR=1

A little slow but close....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yH1NmQSP6w

Hmmm may be fast .... close to 1200 maybe,
Big note here : THIS MUFFLER LOOKS AND SOUNDS ALSO MOST EXACTLY LIKE MY BIKE. Don't know whose bike this is....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oi4xoFdjdI

Almost right on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbMiHZyYCk

Almost right on (EDIT: 1360 rpm, per fancy software check by Moofed, actually a little fast)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bWyQr3fTxU&NR=1

A bit fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7EklySHr64

A bit fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oHIJJtbo1A

Would be good to have someone else double check me out here......

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #9 - 02/28/08 at 09:11:35 Don't know if they are still available, but before everything went electronic, cheap tach/dwell meters were readily available.
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Bobbert Serious Thumper Offline CHOP IT Posts: 836 Los Angeles, CA Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #10 - 02/29/08 at 17:23:00 I think I got it. Turned up the idle pretty high. I'll take my computer down sometime and record the bike and use Garageband to find out how many thumps per second I'm putting out
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Re: uphill troubles
Reply #11 - 02/29/08 at 17:38:05

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 02/28/08 at 08:45:33:

Trippah wrote on 02/28/08 at 05:08:55:

Has anyone listenend recently to the sound files for the different systems..maybee someone with a bike and tach and compare and find one thats at the correct rpm as a always available auditory guide?

Ok, Below is what I think is slow & fast as best as I can tell from what my bike sounds like with my MMB tach. set to ~1100 rpm

It should be noted that the sound may vary depending on your internet connection speed. Where I'm at now, we have a super fast connection. If you have a slow Dial-up connection, find someone with a faster connection or go to your local library and see what they have.

Wow, that first bike has quite the blued muffler. I am a bit jealous. It either indicates a lot of run time, or a really cheap pipe.

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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #12 - 02/29/08 at 19:06:22 Who'd a thunk it..sounds like you're about right on with the slow and fast..and apparantly about 1100 is the goal. Thanks for the heads up.
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T Mack 1 - FSO

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Re: uphill troubles
Reply #13 - 02/29/08 at 19:19:37

steely wrote on 02/29/08 at 17:38:05:

Wow, that first bike has quite the blued muffler. I am a bit jealous. It either indicates a lot of run time, or a really cheap pipe.

Mine is similar style and is bluing there too. It's where the muffler deflects the gases into a single wall section. I think it's bluing because of the singel wall construction..... Sad

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: uphill troubles Reply #14 - 02/29/08 at 22:22:40 ok - without a tach a good way to set the idle on this engine is to watch the head light - it should not dim at idle - get in a dark place and look see - idle it down until it does and raise the idle until it doesn't
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