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Reply #30 - 02/26/08 at 20:40:10
 
Yes, I've used Amsoil 10w-40 in my machine after the engine was broken in. It is the best possible lubricant you can use. Go to their website and look at the numbers. Mobil 1 is your second choice.
Do not use dinosaur sludge like Castrol, Pennzoil, Kendall, Quaker State, Valvolene, etc. These parafin based oils will sludge up.
These dinosaur oils are not used in turbine aircraft engines because they will not stand up to the heat. Oils like Amsoil and Mobil 1 are used in aircraft engines today.
Beware of the term "synthetic" in popular oils. These are not PAO based, and are really petrolium (dinosaur) oils.
By the way, do not use Amsoil or Mobil 1 during engine break-in, or the rings won't seat properly. You want high wear during break-in. After break-in, you want to minimize wear, friction, and heat. The suggested breakin distance is 1500-2000 miles. Run the original oil 750 miles then run the second 750 miles on the Suzuki dinosaur oil. Change filter at every oil change. Then flip to a real synthetic. You can run the synthetic 1500 miles, change it, and keep the old oil and use it in your lawnmower.
The Amsoil will protect the cam chain better too, so you can go a lot longer without worrying about that as well.
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Reply #31 - 02/26/08 at 20:49:12
 
So if you cannot use it for break-in oil, why does Corvette,other US high performance, and most European high end performance car engines come with it as factory fill? Also be aware that according to the information I have. only a very few oils are true synthetics and they are category V. Amsoil, generally Mobil and most other claimed synthetics are CAT IV, still an improvement over straight dyno oil.  see. http://www.motorwatch.com/images/oilclassifications.jpg    
AS you can tell some manufactures move from one category to the other and us as consumers cannot tell the difference. I believe Castrol was one who moved from V - IV at some point in time.  Max
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Reply #32 - 02/26/08 at 21:19:30
 
going to get the Amsoil 10w-40 they have that. I have to go two towns over to get the mobil 1.  So Amsiol wins for my bike this time around! Plus it is close.  that is what happens if you live in ME. you have to go to a few stores be for you find what you need, even for a dam jar of peanutbutter.
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Reply #33 - 02/27/08 at 12:16:49
 
Amsoil 9.10 per a bottle.  Alot mor the the mobil 1 . at 6 to 7 dollers.
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Reply #34 - 02/27/08 at 12:54:00
 
The motorcycle-specific Mobil-1 is >$8/quart at my local Wal-Mart.
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Reply #35 - 02/27/08 at 13:29:58
 
I saw a tired ol Savage at a Wal-Mart in Mineola Texas. It had a lot of miles on it, over 80,000 miles on it. I am willing to bet it never saw oil that cost over 30 bucks a gallon.
How many miles can the bike go on an oilchange using the Mobil or Amsoil?
Does the filter need replaced at 3,000 miles even IF the oil doesnt get changed?
If the cam chain lasts longer & the oil is so good that there is less friction & it boosts MPG( I've heard Royal Purple IS that good, but I was only talking about the car at the time, so I dont know if that stuff can be used in the 650) , then if it will run for 6,000 miles on one oilchange, I might be swayed myself. Even if the MPG isnt impacted, going 6,ooo miles without draining it sounds good. Think of the hassle that would have saved Beat Duck out on the road.
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