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02/25/08 at 15:12:54

I am going to put in (Mobil 1, 15w-50) Cause I cant find 10w-40.

The owner's manual says it's ok , accordding to the little chart on page 2-3. so the only thing I am to watch is cold starts. reffering to another post here.

The owner's manual says suzuki recommends
10w-40 engine oil.

Has any one heard of Amsoil 10w-40 for motorcycles? the guy at the store said it was better then Mobil 1. is he lieing to me?

So who sells mobil 1 10w=40?

I will be riding in hot weather.

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steely Senior Member Offline Posts: 325 Tulsa, Oklahoma Gender:	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #1 - 02/25/08 at 16:24:00 I use Castrol in all of my engines. You should be fine with most any oil of the correct viscosity, just be sure it doesn't have friction modifiers in it. Opinions on oil are like assholes....
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Onederer Ex Member	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #2 - 02/25/08 at 16:35:48 Is'nt oil a friction modifier? If so I should'nt run it at all, that way my clutch wont slip. How much is chainsaw bar oil a gallon?
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Reply #3 - 02/25/08 at 16:51:24

Onederer wrote on 02/25/08 at 16:35:48:

Is'nt oil a friction modifier?

Well, technically yes, but... Tongue

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If so I should'nt run it at all, that way my clutch wont slip.

You try it first and let me know how that works out for you! Grin

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How much is chainsaw bar oil a gallon?

Waaaaaaaaaay too much a gallon. Actually, I think that bar oil would be entirely too viscous. I have noticed that it behaves suspiciously like stringy honey when it is chilly outside. (Since the big ice storm here in OK, I have been using the chainsaw a whole lot more than I have in years previous.)

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Soon Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 61 Portland ME Gender:	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #4 - 02/25/08 at 16:56:05 the manual also says I can put in 10w-50 , in the manual it looks like it has the same temp rating as the 10w-40 range.
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steely Senior Member Offline Posts: 325 Tulsa, Oklahoma Gender:	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #5 - 02/25/08 at 17:00:32 Soon wrote on 02/25/08 at 16:56:05: the manual also says I can put in 10w-50 , in the manual it looks like it has the same temp rating as the 10w-40 range. You should be fine then. Just be certain that it doesn't have the dreaded "Energy Conserving" moniker in the little circle.
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Reply #6 - 02/25/08 at 17:35:32

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Energy Conserving" moniker in the little circle

what is it?
O.. OK I see.. thanks

In the manual it says suzuki does not recommend the use of"ENERGY CONSERVIG" oils.

Some engine oils witch have an API (american petroleum institute)classification of SH or highter have an "ENERGY CONSERVIG " indication in the API classification doughunt mark. these oils can affect the engine life and clutch performance.

pg 2-4

what does the SH stand for ? pardon my ignorance.

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Soon Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 61 Portland ME Gender:	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #7 - 02/25/08 at 17:36:24 I just want to put the best oil in my bike.
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Reply #8 - 02/25/08 at 17:51:19

[quote author=65595958360 link=1203981174/0#6 date=1203989732] Quote:

what does the SH stand for ? pardon my ignorance.

I know that the "S" stands for passenger vehicles, a "C" rated oil is for commercial vehicles. I am not really certain what the "H" stands for. If you are really that concerned about using the "best" oil in your bike, go with the oils specifically formulated for motorcycles. From what I understand, you will pay a bit more per quart. I am not sure exactly what the premium per quart is, but I have heard that it is somewhere around $.50 per quart. Whether or not it is really necessary is up for debate (see previous oil threads). However, if it will ensure your peace of mind, do it.

That being said, I don't use it. I merely use standard automotive oil that is not designated energy conserving. I have never had a problem, YMMV

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Reply #9 - 02/25/08 at 18:11:31

I think above all, if you read the manual, don't worry.
Harley even used to recomend diesel oil in thier manuals.

I had a KTM300exc that burned a lot of oil, like every tank of gas I had to add oil. I just bought the cheap stuff

Every oil manufacturer will tell U theirs is the best, and I doubt you'd have any oil related failure with any brand you choose(not servicing does'nt count as oil related failure).

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Soon Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 61 Portland ME Gender:	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #10 - 02/25/08 at 18:31:09 Has any one heard of Amsoil 10w-40 for motorcycles?
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Reply #11 - 02/25/08 at 18:53:20

Autozone has Mobile 1 Racing 4T (10w40) for motorcycles at about $9/qt. I've also heard good things about Amsoil but I've never tried myself.

Bottom line, any synthetic that is motorcycle specific will be fine. Just choose the weight based on your particular conditions. For instance, 15w50 will be fine for hot weather riding while 10w40 will be better for mildly cold conditions and 5w30 for those parts of the country that get really cold! (But, I doubt riding would be a real choice in those conditions.)

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #12 - 02/25/08 at 21:42:13 Wallyworld has Rotella Tea, 15w40 for $9 a gal. I just change it every month in the summer, every 2 in the winter.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #13 - 02/25/08 at 23:37:12 I run Rotella T also, from wallyworld. Run the everlovin crap outta that bike, seems fine.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: the great oil debate! Reply #14 - 02/26/08 at 05:36:39 http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/API.html http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/pubs/index.cfm http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/categories/upload/EngineOilGuide2... and one of my favorites for general oil info.... http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
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