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Reply #32 - 02/16/08 at 20:05:06

I don't run over little kids. Last time I ran into anything was 1965.

Insurance is you betting against yourself. If you are a horrid driver/rider insurance will pay off. If you are a safe driver/rider you are the one paying for the horrid driver/riders -- as well as paying for the insurance company skyscrapers etc.. Just as with the state lottery or Vegas casinos -- the odds are stacked so that the house never loses. The insurance companys have passed laws (thru their purchased legislators) to have insurance coverage mandatory, or worse, "no fault" where you have to pay for other people hitting you.

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Reply #33 - 02/17/08 at 03:09:24

Paladin. wrote on 02/16/08 at 20:05:06:

I don't run over little kids. Last time I ran into anything was 1965.
Insurance is you betting against yourself. If you are a horrid driver/rider insurance will pay off. If you are a safe driver/rider you are the one paying for the horrid driver/riders -- as well as paying for the insurance company skyscrapers etc.. Just as with the state lottery or Vegas casinos -- the odds are stacked so that the house never loses. The insurance companys have passed laws (thru their purchased legislators) to have insurance coverage mandatory, or worse, "no fault" where you have to pay for other people hitting you.

Oh, we've all suffered the frustration of coming back to your parked car and finding some a...hole has damaged it and left, or town collisions where the other driver has no insurance (a big problem in the UK with the hordes of Eastern European, Asian and African immigrants we're suffering).

I don’t know how proactive the Police are in the US these days with insurance, but over here if your vehicle passes a Police car his vehicle automatically scans your plate to check for annual vehicle tax and insurance – and if you don’t insurance, the penalty points on your license put you ¾ the way to being a banned driver.

But think of a worse situation. No fault of your own, your front tyre pops, or your motor locks up, or you hit a patch of gravel or spilled oil, and you lose control of the bike – doesn’t matter how competent or sensible any of us are, it can happen. How bad would it be if you end up causing a $100,000 car to be written off, and have to sell your house to pay off the damages?

Or even worse, same situation, you’re riding sensibly and safely but something does go wrong, and you critically injure a little kid, leaving them in need of long-term medical care that the family can’t pay – if you’re insured, they’re going to be covered. I don’t like the idea of contemplating the alternative.

I don’t insure for my own financial protection – I’d happily run the odds over the balance of a lifetime. I insure in case I need to pay for injury I may cause to somebody else.

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Reply #34 - 02/17/08 at 10:57:15

I almost didn't jump into this one, because I'm sure I'll raise the ire of someone.

I am an insurance defense lawyer - that means we represent people who are BEING SUED, and are assigned those cases by, and our fees are paid by, the insurance companies from whom our client purchased his insurance.

So many people fail to realize that your insurance policy (liability insurance, that is) provides two main benefits:

1. It pays the claimant's damages, up to the limit of coverage that you bought, if you are found liable; and

2. It pays for your defense if and when you are sued.

To me, the second benefit, being the obligation of the company to defend you against even meritless lawsuits is just as important, if not more so, than the indemnity benefit to pay the plaintiff (the one suing you) if you're found liable.

Any of us can be sued, and then, unless we just roll over and default, we've got to defend ourselves. That defense can cost more than most folks would ever realize. Now, let's forget about the attacks on lawyers and insurance companies (that might be good bar room stuff when we're half in the bag), but intelligent folks protect themselves against the realities of our world, rather than just rail against those realities.

And, even though I'm on the defense side, there are legitimate injuries of all kinds, caused by good people who just happen to make a mistake. Why else do they put an eraser on every pencil they make?

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Reply #36 - 02/18/08 at 07:10:07

Keith_T wrote on 02/14/08 at 05:15:12:

Since the Savage is the only single cylinder cruiser on the market in the last 30 years I was wondering what made Suzuki design it? My guess would be that the engine is half of the engine from the Intruder 1400 so it was inexpensive to design. Any other theories?

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Re: Why did Suzuki make a single?
Reply #37 - 02/18/08 at 08:27:58

Keith_T wrote on 02/14/08 at 05:15:12:

Since the Savage is the only single cylinder cruiser on the market in the last 30 years I was wondering what made Suzuki design it? My guess would be that the engine is half of the engine from the Intruder 1400 so it was inexpensive to design. Any other theories?

I looked up 1986... (as far as 4 strokes go)
Suzuki had 2 550's (inline4), 3 750's (inline4), 3 1400's (v4 water cooled) and our beloved 650.
Yamaha had all inline4's and a parralell twin
Kawasaki also inline4's and an inline6
Honda had a real nice mix, inline4's, vtwins, v4's, flat 4's and... a 500 single.

We know the engine came from the tempter and a scrambler before that. The engine doesn't seem to be a stepping stone for another model. Rather it seems to be how can we keep up with the Jones today. Most of the market didn't want to step on harley. I think Zuki went after the low end cruiser market with something that had the best of both worlds, didn't step on harley vtwin, straight up cylinder reminescent of brit bikes

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Why did Suzuki make a single? Reply #38 - 02/18/08 at 08:42:51 At one time suzuki was going to buy out triumph motorcycles, thats when they built the gr650 that looks like a triumph,that was in 1983 so i supposed they built the s40 because it was like other British bikes.
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Polar_Pilot Junior Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 64	Re: Why did Suzuki make a single? Reply #39 - 02/18/08 at 17:28:46 I am a bit surprised that no one mentioned the Buell Blast - a 500cc single There is a review of the Blast at http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/buell/buell-blast-13968.html
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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	Re: Why did Suzuki make a single? Reply #40 - 02/18/08 at 18:19:17 The blast is not a cruiser. Neither are the Enfield, Honda's SR500, or AFAIK any other single.
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Re: Why did Suzuki make a single?
Reply #41 - 02/18/08 at 18:55:11

Polar_Pilot wrote on 02/18/08 at 17:28:46:

I am a bit surprised that no one mentioned the Buell Blast - a 500cc single

There is a review of the Blast at
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/buell/buell-blast-13968.html

I think that's putting the cart in front of the horse. The earliest the blast came out was 2000, our single came out in 86.

And the question was why did suzuki make a single, so it doesn't limit the answer to cruisers.

I think in part the answer is there is a low end market. We're not cheap bastard's we just like to buy beer too. Grin

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Why did Suzuki make a single? Reply #42 - 02/18/08 at 19:08:45 Suzuki GN 400 was a cruiser,and a very good cruiser.
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