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Black Betty YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 5	CAN'T START 02/05/08 at 11:08:41 2nd attempt to post! My Savage is a really bad starter....will crank over endlessly without firing up. Starts with "easy start" blasted into carb. Carb has been cleaned and started first time after that but 3 days later...nothing! Has a new battery (yet to change plug but do get a spark). Any ideas for me in the UK? PLEASE HELP!!!!!
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: CAN'T START Reply #1 - 02/05/08 at 11:13:16 Obviously, you need to see if you have gas in the carb.
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Black Betty YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 5	Re: CAN'T START Reply #2 - 02/05/08 at 11:31:05 Yes it has gas in it! Electrics are fine too as lights etc come on.
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Reply #3 - 02/05/08 at 11:41:11

Black Betty wrote on 02/05/08 at 11:08:41:

2nd attempt to post!
My Savage is a really bad starter....will crank over endlessly without firing up. Starts with "easy start" blasted into carb. Carb has been cleaned and started first time after that but 3 days later...nothing! Has a new battery (yet to change plug but do get a spark). Any ideas for me in the UK?
PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Get that new plug, but first even though you get a spark, read the plug. You can still get a spark even if the plug is extremely fouled. And before anyone else mentions it, I think I will beat them to the punch. Got a manual? (sorry savage greg, just had to beat ya to it Wink

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To me, it definitely sounds like either bad plug, fuel delivery problem or a combination of both.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: CAN'T START Reply #4 - 02/05/08 at 11:44:22 When you started it, how long did you run it? All the hoses connected to the right places? 2 hoses pointed up are vents, hose on right goes to petcork, hose on left goes to tank (big hose on petcork) also, if the battery is run down, it may turn the starter, but may not have enough to start.
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Reply #5 - 02/05/08 at 12:02:46

Yes have manual but not good at motorcycle maintenance as I have only had one previous bike and never had a problem! Also I'm a bird so don't even get the basics (ha ha!)

Sorry - when you say hose on right....on right of which bit (????) Keep sending me ideas so that when one of my male mates comes round they can take a look.

(I'm sure there are plenty of women out there who can do mechanics...I'm afraid I can't! Really don't want to cause offence!!! Grin

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Reply #6 - 02/05/08 at 12:13:33

Personally I believe being male or female has nothing to do with mechanical ability, I have known some guys who to look at them you would think, "Now this guy HAS to know about engines and stuff" but when it comes down to it they were as dumb as a box of rocks when it came to mechanics. And I have known some women who could tear down and reassemble an engine with there eyes closed and out perform anything I have seen on the street.

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Black Betty YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 5	Re: CAN'T START Reply #7 - 02/05/08 at 12:44:13 Ha ha! I get you but I just don't want to upset anyone with any PC or non PC comments!!! I can do that later when my bike's fixed! Tee hee!
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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: CAN'T START Reply #8 - 02/05/08 at 12:50:00 Black Betty wrote on 02/05/08 at 12:44:13: Ha ha! I get you but I just don't want to upset anyone with any PC or non PC comments!!! I can do that later when my bike's fixed! Tee hee! roflmfao no were not very pc around here, so say whatever crosses your mind.l
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Reply #9 - 02/05/08 at 12:55:38

Sometimes I have a similar starting problem with my 40. I have gas, with an inline filter, and strong battery. It cranks well but just doesn't catch. What I have done in the past is to drop the carb bowl, blast out the carb with cleaner, re-assemble, and away she goes. I have drilled the mixture plug out and hope that the right jets will help in any fuel delivery problem. I have'nt pulled the sparkplug yet.

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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: CAN'T START Reply #10 - 02/05/08 at 13:49:05 A couple of standard things if it is stubborn after sitting. 1) set fuel petc0ck to PRI for a few seconds (maybe 10). 2) set choke, and DO NOT give it any throttle when pushing the starter button.
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Reply #11 - 02/05/08 at 14:59:10

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 02/05/08 at 13:49:05:

2) set choke, and DO NOT give it any throttle when pushing the starter button.

I've seen this said many times, but I've always gave the throttle a little crack to start. And more if it doesn't start immediately (on rare occassions). When cold (like in the morning) my bike idles slow, so a little twist brings it up to high idle like it should be.

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Reply #12 - 02/05/08 at 15:41:05

Black Betty wrote on 02/05/08 at 11:31:05:

Yes it has gas in it! Electrics are fine too as lights etc come on.

Did you check the level in the bowl? Did you drain the bowl?

If it has gas in it, then why isn't the gas getting into the engine? After all, you sprayed a starter in the carb and it started.

What changed? It started initially after you had the carb cleaned, but 3 days later it wouldn't, right?

There are 3 things you need to start it. Air, ignition, and fuel. Go back to the carb.

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Reply #13 - 02/05/08 at 15:55:58

Firstly i am not an Oily Mechanic, However I tend to agree withe SavG.

If it starts on a spray (High Octane) starter in the carb it is able to start.

Therefore you do have a spark, maybe not Hot enough for petrol (GAS).

or you are not getting the fuel to the carb, Start it on prime, this is gravity fed, if it starts like the spray then you are not getting Fuel, try the same on reserve, now if if it starts, the Petcock Widget which works under Engine pressure is working so I would expect some kind of blockage in the tank on the "Normal " setting.
If it dont its the Widget see the technical oily hand guys.

Now if it dont start on prime take the tank off and change the plug.

On chepo Chinese Bikes there has been problems with Carbs Iceing up and a fuel conditioner (Octane Booster, Silkolene is the trade name over here) has cured the problem.

However my savage starts and runs in cold (UK, not Alaska or Florida) conditions so easily, (compared to my 125 Yamaha) that I do not believe Octane boosting is your answer

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steely Senior Member Offline Posts: 325 Tulsa, Oklahoma Gender:	Re: CAN'T START Reply #14 - 02/05/08 at 16:11:49 I have not seen you mention having engaged the choke after it has been sitting for a few days. You are doing that, right? Mine will sometimes take a few turns to start after sitting for a few days, but it never takes very long if I have it choked.
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