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Things not sounding too good (Read 424 times)
SteveRocket1
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Re: Things not sounding too good
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12/09/07 at 15:43:16
I think it is gravely ill. The valve clearances seemed fine and cam chain is tight . So I have to dig into it I have it half stripped down now. This is my problem. I have a spare engine which I believe to run ok but the starter and its gears need looking at. Now do I try and fix the starter issue and put the other engine in or do I just transplant the jug, head and the piston from the spare to the one in the bike. Does anyone know if there is a gasket set for the transplant ?. I know first I will need to check the problem with the other engine. I am getting withdrawal symptoms I haven't ridden since Thursday OUCH
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12/10/07 at 04:51:50
SteveRocket1 wrote
on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:
I think it is gravely ill. The valve clearances seemed fine and cam chain is tight . So I have to dig into it I have it half stripped down now. This is my problem. I have a spare engine which I believe to run ok but the starter and its gears need looking at. Now do I try and fix the starter issue and put the other engine in or do I just transplant the jug, head and the piston from the spare to the one in the bike. Does anyone know if there is a gasket set for the transplant ?. I know first I will need to check the problem with the other engine. I am getting withdrawal symptoms I haven't ridden since Thursday OUCH
Steve
Hmmm. To either transplant an engine with unknown problems or fix the running engine with unknown problems.
That is a real tough choice to make.
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Re: Things not sounding too good
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12/10/07 at 05:02:24
Evaluate each engine & repair the one that will fix the easiest & cheapest, using parts from each along with whatever new stuff is needed. Or, step back & throw cubic $$$ at it?
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Re: Things not sounding too good
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12/10/07 at 05:35:58
How torn down is the engine? If the question is a transplant or repair, the repair will give longest return for your labor.
Was the exhaust system in good condition? A leak at the head to pipe connnection area can sound like a valve tap.
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12/10/07 at 17:00:29
Does anyone Know what gaskets I will need to buy to change the Jug and the Piston plus the head over to the one in the bike. I am looking through the microfliches but I don't want to miss one
thanks In advance
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Reply #20 -
12/11/07 at 04:57:37
SteveRocket1 wrote
on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:
Does anyone Know what gaskets I will need to buy to change the Jug and the Piston plus the head over to the one in the bike. I am looking through the microfliches but I don't want to miss one
thanks In advance
Steve
Hmmm...I just happen to know of a CD with that info on it
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12/11/07 at 09:32:40
I must be stupid ,I have your great CD at home
thanks Greg
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12/11/07 at 09:37:04
SteveRocket1 wrote
on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:
I must be stupid ,I have your great CD at home
thanks Greg
Steve
Wasn't calling you stupid...just teasing, 'cause you aren't the first one to forget it
Head gasket, cylinder gasket, right cover gasket, oval o-ring (maybe) and RTV sealer...
But don't you need to find the noise first?
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Reply #23 -
12/11/07 at 10:08:17
Max 2nd that motion, find the source of the noise before you do lots of unnecessary work and lost 'scootin' time. Max
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Reply #24 -
12/11/07 at 10:30:15
Yes all true But Its hard to find the noise when it's not running. I am not as a competent wrench as yourselves I will take off the head cover as soon as I can I think I need to get some more tools like a micrometer to check whats worn.
I am pretty sure it's not valve clearances or cam chain so next job is get the head cover off.
How easy is it to tell if the wrist pin is too worn. Will it feel loose if I take the jug off or are very small gaps from wear able to make large noises?.
As always I apprreciate your imput and advice and loss of riding time is bad bad bad.
Steve
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Reply #25 -
12/11/07 at 11:00:02
SteveRocket1 wrote
on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:
Yes all true But Its hard to find the noise when it's not running. I am not as a competent wrench as yourselves I will take off the head cover as soon as I can I think I need to get some more tools like a micrometer to check whats worn.
I am pretty sure it's not valve clearances or cam chain so next job is get the head cover off.
How easy is it to tell if the wrist pin is too worn. Will it feel loose if I take the jug off or are very small gaps from wear able to make large noises?.
As always I apprreciate your imput and advice and loss of riding time is bad bad bad.
Steve
Can't go by "feel" on the wrist pin...get the mics first. You can get a 1-3" set at Harbor Freight for around $35.
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Reply #26 -
12/11/07 at 11:04:54
Try turning it over by hand like when finding TDC.
And should be able to notice if the wrist or con bearings are loose by turning back and forth at various points in the stroke.
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Reply #27 -
12/11/07 at 11:34:51
Did try that when I was checking the valves. I couldn't really tell .I think when I get the lid off it I may be able to tell more. As always not enough time to get things done
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Reply #28 -
12/11/07 at 11:39:34
Maybe your doohickey, thingamabob, or whatschamacallit is loose
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