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Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen
Reply #105 - 11/15/07 at 09:05:55

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

Greg,
I did a double check of my melted piston. It's rings were shot too. You might want to check the oil passages to make sure no sealant is bocking or restricting the flow.

TMack

Haven't seen anything, but of course, my piston isn't damaged and a "lack of oil" wasn't the problem Tongue

Now, I've got a piston to sell Grin

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Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen
Reply #107 - 11/15/07 at 09:15:20

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

$147....wow, ......the stealership only charges $104.61 for the first oversize(kit plus pin & circlips). or...$100.61 for std (adding everything up). And....Ron Ayers should be cheaper.....

http://www.blackmanscycle.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?category=Motorcycles&m...

Thanks for that link. Shows an OS .5MM piston set at $90.60.

I actually have a small shopping list of things to replace and have been comparing the "bottom line" with Bike Bandit, Ron Ayers, and Power Sports Pro (lowest by $12). Now I'll check with them, too.

Now...do I wanna go to an OS 2MM piston...decisions, decisions... Tongue

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smokin_blue Serious Thumper Offline From Cafes to Streetfighters! I build them all! Posts: 830 St. Paul, MN Gender:	Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen Reply #108 - 11/15/07 at 09:23:00 Come on Greg!! Team up with Lancer and create the Monster Block for this bad boy!!! 8) go for a 866 instead!!!! Think of it! CNC billet cylinder with a new sleeve and its off to the races Think of the compression you could get with the stock head Let's make that thing rumble in more ways than one!!
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Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen
Reply #109 - 11/15/07 at 09:30:13

smokin_blue wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

Come on Greg!! Team up with Lancer and create the Monster Block for this bad boy!!! 8) go for a 866 instead!!!!

Think of it! CNC billet cylinder with a new sleeve and its off to the races Grin

Think of the compression you could get with the stock head Shocked

Let's make that thing rumble in more ways than one!!

Yeah, let's test the crank and counter balancer to it's limits too Grin

Didn't Lancer mention a 4 MM OS piston? A 700 would be cool...

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen Reply #111 - 11/15/07 at 10:11:19 Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11: so you going for the 97mm? that will bring up the compression a little bit as well Thinking about it. As long as there is still another overbore size anyway.
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen Reply #112 - 11/15/07 at 11:48:52 I thought (at least on commerical pistons) that was it for the savage cylinder +1mm@96mm piston(97mm cylinder bore) and +2mm@97mm piston(98mm cylinder bore)
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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen Reply #113 - 11/15/07 at 12:33:47 Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11: Thanks for that link. Shows an OS .5MM piston set at $90.60. The Suzuki OS kit doesn't inculde the wrist pin & circlips (I know this from experience). I was told to always replace the pin with the piston. I tacked those on to the price I gave.
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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen Reply #114 - 11/15/07 at 12:35:38 also, choice is go all out and max the bore or go in steps each time yoiu have to rebuild.
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Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen
Reply #116 - 11/15/07 at 19:11:22

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

I appears that the gap on the 1st and 2nd were nearly in line with eachother Sad

I bet that I turned them using the ring compressor and didn't know it....

I find that most MC cylinders have a slight taper at the bottom to facilitate getting it all together easily. Ours included. Maybe they moved when they got past the ring compressor but before they got to the regular cyl wall.

I didn't use a compressor. I marked (with a sharpie) the piston at each 120 deg point, with an extra mark where I wanted the gap for each ring to be. Then used thumbs and two pieces of plastic to get each ring into the taper one at a time. It goes slower and more wear & tear on the old thumbs, but I was sure where the rings went in.

Also, my old timer friend said to use WD-40 or CRC to lube it when putting it back together. The rings will seat faster.

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Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen
Reply #117 - 11/15/07 at 21:27:50

Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

I thought (at least on commerical pistons) that was it for the savage cylinder +1mm@96mm piston(97mm cylinder bore) and +2mm@97mm piston(98mm cylinder bore)

The first OS piston (as far as I understand) is .5 MM.

The bore/cylinder difference is about 1 MM, though. I'd have to go back down to the garage, but I think you are right.

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Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen
Reply #118 - 11/15/07 at 21:31:02

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

The Suzuki OS kit doesn't inculde the wrist pin & circlips (I know this from experience). I was told to always replace the pin with the piston. I tacked those on to the price I gave.

No, that makes sense. Parts that wear together should go together, so I plan to sell this piston with the pin. They are both above service limit.

I also think that a set contains a pin and rings...No???

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Re: Very "Interesting" Thing Just Happen
Reply #119 - 11/15/07 at 21:36:00

SavageWahine wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:11:

Hats of to you Greg!!!
This is a "tad" beyond my abilities Tongue

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Hope you get it fixed!

"Tad" beyond? Come on. This ain't no "little woman" thing. You rebuilt forks, fixed a muffler, rebuilt a carb, installed a beeper, and built a bike stand. You can do this too. You're not kidding me. All ya gotta do is get in there once. Tongue

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