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Got the muffler off! (renamed)
10/25/07 at 13:20:16

Hmmmmphhhh!!!
Remember my little muffler shield problem?

I got the nut off believe it or not, tapped slowly at the bracket with hammer and stubby flathead screwdriver, and lots of W-40.
After some amazingly LOUD squeaking while turning the nut it came out. The clamp on the other side is loose.

It's not coming away though. And the muffler shield itself is still solidly mounted. I looked at Clymers, but couldn't find any reference on how to remove the big shield, only the little one in front.
Isn't this thing supposed to come off once you've got the nut off?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now??? Reply #1 - 10/25/07 at 13:39:03 Take a look from underneath. I think there's 2 more screws hidden somewhere.
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youzguyz Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2538 San Antonio, Texas Gender:	Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now??? Reply #2 - 10/25/07 at 13:42:46 I think they are on the backside of that "fin" that sticks up. May not be able to see it from underneath, but should be able to feel them from the top. Might have to take exhaust completely off to get to them though?? Durned if I know, mine isn't stock.
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Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now???
Reply #3 - 10/25/07 at 13:57:17

I did find the reference in Clymer's, and they did say to only take the bolt and clamp off and then remove shield.
Oh well, what the heck! Think I'm going to bench the bike for a while. Need to replace the gasket anyways, might as well take the whole darn thing off.
Say! The engine is not gonna drop tot the ground when I remove the front heat shield and foot peg?
The other bolt will hold it up right? Or do I need to support the engine with a jack or something while doing this?

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Reply #4 - 10/25/07 at 14:06:52

SavageWahine wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:

Say! The engine is not gonna drop tot the ground when I remove the front heat shield and foot peg?
The other bolt will hold it up right? Or do I need to support the engine with a jack or something while doing this?

Noooo.. the engine will stay where it is. Shouldn't even move. Lots more bolts holding it in! Grin

And you don't pull the bolts out anyway. The heat shield and footpeg slide off the bolts.
Just remember that those 2 bolts (engine mount/foot peg/small heat shield) have to get REAL tight when putting them back on. About 55 ft/lb

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Demin Serious Thumper Offline We need more chlorine in the gene pool Posts: 2435 Warren,Ohio Gender:	Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now??? Reply #5 - 10/25/07 at 14:08:02 No the engine won't fall,leave your top mount bolted up.
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vtail Senior Member Offline life's short, ride fast Posts: 408 Portland,OR Gender:	Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now??? Reply #6 - 10/25/07 at 14:23:11 There are 2 philips head screw on the inside. Little hard to see or get to
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SavageWahine Serious Thumper Offline Aloha & Hang Loose Posts: 1553 Beautiful Kauai! Gender:	Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now??? Reply #7 - 10/25/07 at 15:09:42 Thanks guys! Just finished cleaning carport, and putting new paper on table. (you know me... got to write and tape it all down). 55 ft/lbs Hmmmm... Who was that again that posted that little torque per inch/foot stuff? I saw a wrench that had torque measurements on it, really cool, really expensive..$104 OY!
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Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now???
Reply #8 - 10/25/07 at 15:26:53

vtail wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:

There are 2 philips head screw on the inside. Little hard to see or get to Wink

You are RIGHT!!
Found them with a mirror and a flash light.
WHAT KIND OF MORON WOULD DESIGN THAT THING WITH THE SCREWS INSIDE!!
Cr_p! Of course they are utterly rusted!
I put some liquid wrench on it, gonna let it soak for a while!

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Reply #9 - 10/25/07 at 16:22:53

ok, I'm kinda stuck!
Can not get those philips screws off, so I decided to take the muffler holder off. took the bolt on left right side of bike off, bolt on left side is hidden. I can see the end of the bolt coming out but don't really see the head on left side of bike.
So I decided different tactic; get front of muffler off, remove small heat shield and foot peg. Top nut came off (after a lot of turning. bottom nut.... I'm turning and turning and turning and........ I think I've turned it at least 50 times. It is not getting loose enough to turn by hand, but turns easily with wrench. but nut is not coming off.
What do you think is going on???
Got to get that off to get the muffler pipe off.

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SavageDude Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Posts: 561 OC_California Gender:	Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now??? Reply #10 - 10/25/07 at 16:40:14 IW, you need to have another wrench to keep the bolt from moving while you loosen the nut. Otherwise the darn thing will keep on spinning around and around forever. The head of the bolt is wayyyyy on the other side Happy wrenching.
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SavageDude Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Posts: 561 OC_California Gender:	Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now??? Reply #11 - 10/25/07 at 16:44:38 BTW you also need to loosen up the 2 nuts on the header/exhaust port to easily remove the muffler w/t shield on. Believe me I've been there Stupid Suzuki engineer
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Re: ??? Isn't this supposed to come off now???
Reply #12 - 10/25/07 at 16:49:10

SavageDude wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:

IW, you need to have another wrench to keep the bolt from moving while you loosen the nut. Otherwise the darn thing will keep on spinning around and around forever. The head of the bolt is wayyyyy on the other side

Happy wrenching.

I feel like such an idiot!!
The top one came off without having to hold another bolt, so I didn't think the bottom would be any different!

Do I need to take the brake cable off? It's kinda tight and there's not enough room to slide the footpeg off the bolts.

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Reply #13 - 10/25/07 at 18:56:09

SavageDude wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:

BTW you also need to loosen up the 2 nuts on the header/exhaust port to easily remove the muffler w/t shield on. Believe me I've been there Roll Eyes

Stupid Suzuki engineer Angry

That was so easy to do it that way!!
I got to write that Clymer's fellow about this! The 2 idiotic screws actually came of without too much trouble.
I'm soaking the 2 muffler pieces, they are kinda rusted together.

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SavageWahine Serious Thumper Offline Aloha & Hang Loose Posts: 1553 Beautiful Kauai! Gender:	Re: Got the muffler off! (renamed) Reply #14 - 10/25/07 at 19:00:41 Is there supposed to be soot where the muffler meets the engine? There is also some in the beginning of the pipe. I'm gonna have my hands full getting the rust off this one. The shield bracket is just a little crooked! Got lucky though! no hole in the muffler, but 2 nice size dents!
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