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Re: What a stud!
Reply #15 - 10/12/07 at 09:08:42
 
Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:
...Got a bike salvage place around there?


There's a couple around here somewhere- I just found an online directory. I'm off in a couple of weeks, so I'll have more time to devote to calling around and then scavaging.
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Reply #16 - 10/12/07 at 10:02:13
 
jkhulon73,
  Were they hard to get out? ? ? ?   I have a bad head (cam journal destroyed by PO) which has them in.  


Do you want me to try and get them out? ? ? ?

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Reply #17 - 10/12/07 at 10:04:44
 
T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:
jkhulon73,
  Were they hard to get out? ? ? ?   I have a bad head (cam journal destroyed by PO) which has them in.  


Do you want me to try and get them out? ? ? ?

TMack

You can remove them if you jam 2 nuts together.
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Reply #18 - 10/12/07 at 10:16:33
 
COME ON MAN , IMPROVISE !
There is nothing so special about this studs. You can get  ANY 8X1.25 stud  that is designed to be torqued to about 16 pounds. You can go to Autozone or any other auto retailer and get them . If not- just use 8mm bolts and You are done.
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Reply #19 - 10/12/07 at 12:12:24
 
slavy wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:
COME ON MAN , IMPROVISE !
There is nothing so special about this studs. You can get  ANY 8X1.25 stud  that is designed to be torqued to about 16 pounds. You can go to Autozone or any other auto retailer and get them . If not- just use 8mm bolts and You are done.



The one on the right? He11 yeah, I can improvise that- no problem. But the one on the left? I dunno... I've been called Mr Wizard before, but that might be a little beyond what I can do in my garage or Home Depot...

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Reply #20 - 10/12/07 at 15:05:27
 
Greg,
Thanks, I wasn't sure if Suzuki did anything odd like pin them.

Jkhulon73,
    Studs extracted nicely.  Interested?  ?  ????

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Reply #21 - 10/12/07 at 15:07:35
 
jkhulon73 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:
The one on the right? He11 yeah, I can improvise that- no problem. But the one on the left? I dunno... I've been called Mr Wizard before, but that might be a little beyond what I can do in my garage or Home Depot...



I see your point.  Of course, this is beginning to beg for another question...Tongue

How the heck did this happen?  I know that I had to use a chisel to remove one that was rounded off, but...
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Reply #22 - 10/12/07 at 15:21:40
 
T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:
Greg,
Thanks, I wasn't sure if Suzuki did anything odd like pin them.

Jkhulon73,
    Studs extracted nicely.  Interested?  ?  ????

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Reply #23 - 10/12/07 at 15:27:38
 
Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:
I see your point.  Of course, this is beginning to beg for another question...Tongue

How the heck did this happen?  I know that I had to use a chisel to remove one that was rounded off, but...


Well, the oddball looking one snapped on the first twist of the wrench after a 15 minutes soak in WD-40. The other one, after soaking in WD-40 for 45-60 minutes, the nut rounded off instantly as well.
I used a Dremel with a teeny tiny (used) cutting wheel to get a chunk out of the nut without damaging the head.
Once I had the nut off, I was able to lift the head off, flatten two sides of the remaining damaged pieces of the stud and twist 'em out with a pair of vise grips and a 24" break-over bar (pipe)

Those suckers were in there pretty good...
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Reply #24 - 10/12/07 at 16:06:16
 
If you have the threads cleared they screw into, you could get a bolt with a long shank( unthreaded part) & run a die down it to make your own stud, maybe?
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Reply #25 - 10/12/07 at 17:41:35
 
Yep this morning my front one was loose again didn't even get 200 miles on my last re-torque. I get the feeling that if I torque this one at this rate (every 300 miles), that I'm slowly pulling the stud out of the head pretty soon. The rear one stays nice and tight. It (the front one) takes the 18 ft/lbs everytime but then it's loose again 300 miles later ( with a tiny bit of oil on it). Go Figure Smiley
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Reply #26 - 10/13/07 at 05:58:44
 
vtail wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:
Yep this morning my front one was loose again didn't even get 200 miles on my last re-torque. I get the feeling that if I torque this one at this rate (every 300 miles), that I'm slowly pulling the stud out of the head pretty soon. The rear one stays nice and tight. It (the front one) takes the 18 ft/lbs everytime but then it's loose again 300 miles later ( with a tiny bit of oil on it). Go Figure Smiley

You had put a mark on that nut.  Did the nut turn or did it just get loose?

(Incidentally folks, he showed me the mark the other day)
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Reply #27 - 10/13/07 at 10:35:27
 
That's the thing, it did not turn and was still in the same spot. I torqued it again and the nut turned 60 degrees. So I'm getting suspisious Smiley
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Reply #28 - 10/13/07 at 11:33:01
 
If the nut isnt turning & it's getting loose, either the stud is stretching( that cant last long) or the therads are pulling( as you already suspect)
Did the stud go to the bottom of the threads?
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Reply #29 - 10/13/07 at 12:14:38
 
No the nut is not bottomed out. This is a 4 month old bike with 3200 miles on it. Torqued the head bolts (6) at 600 miles and checked valves at 600 & 1000 miles. I'll just keep this nut lightly tight from now on. I'll contact suzuki so they'll be aware of this problem. After all it's under warranty Smiley
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